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    So since this upcoming week will break the 600 myth tokens I have, I considered not buying DL legs but the monk relic legs.

    Would be a large increase and MAYBE help on my end with titan since I just have a whole bunch of fucks in each group I go with. I do my part with dodging, damage, and all the shit but it seems too hard for others ;c Anyone on hyperion take me with you.

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    Not advocating getting relic legs but regardless of that decision don't get dl pants they're poop.

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    I know many pieces of DL are horrible, but what else can you get in their place? same with AF2, unless you can clear the coil, I don't see any alternatives

    I still haven't looked at how materia melding works (apparently you can put materia even if there aren't any slots but it can fail and you lose the materia?) so I might be missing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaano View Post
    So since this upcoming week will break the 600 myth tokens I have, I considered not buying DL legs but the monk relic legs.

    Would be a large increase and MAYBE help on my end with titan since I just have a whole bunch of fucks in each group I go with. I do my part with dodging, damage, and all the shit but it seems too hard for others ;c Anyone on hyperion take me with you.
    I just ran praet speed runs with you earlier. Hit me up in-game later today and I'll see if I can get some people to help you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarian View Post
    I know many pieces of DL are horrible, but what else can you get in their place? same with AF2, unless you can clear the coil, I don't see any alternatives

    I still haven't looked at how materia melding works (apparently you can put materia even if there aren't any slots but it can fail and you lose the materia?) so I might be missing that.
    For monk get militia subligar HQ and quint meld it.

    Don't bitch about quint, it takes like 15min.

    This is what you'd use until relic/Allagan. The only reason I'm not weighing in on whether relic would be worth getting before any other piece is because I'm not home to check stats on shit and I went with weapon+1 before any gear so I haven't bothered to compare stats for relic gear yet.

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    What are the materia caps for militia gear?

    Also, how does determination compare to STR? 1:2 STR/DET, 1:5?

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    Does anyone know how Fracture compares to touch of Death? Higher base damage vs higher DoT damage

    EDIT: Bleh, disregard that, Fracture only lasts 18 seconds when used with another job, didn't see the MRD trait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarian View Post
    What are the materia caps for militia gear?

    Also, how does determination compare to STR? 1:2 STR/DET, 1:5?
    It's at least 2:1 STR:DET. Only put DET if you've got nothing else to put in its place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fievel View Post
    For monk get militia subligar HQ and quint meld it.

    Don't bitch about quint, it takes like 15min.

    This is what you'd use until relic/Allagan. The only reason I'm not weighing in on whether relic would be worth getting before any other piece is because I'm not home to check stats on shit and I went with weapon+1 before any gear so I haven't bothered to compare stats for relic gear yet.
    how would you say gryphonskin gear compare with the milita? Can also quint meld on those for stat boosts

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    If you wanna spent the 1125 philo stones for the materials, go for it.

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    That's exactly what I'm contemplating, going for the legs myself, since DL ones are poop (I already have a lot of accuracy, 500 right now, I don't know how much I need for the coil, I'm at 500 and hitting 100%, I think it's most likely around 450 tops)

    What I don't know is; Does the stats go as far as DL? ie; DL has 20/22/27 str/vit/acc can i get the Gryphonskin to 22/22/27/22 str/vit/crit/det with melds or does green gear have a lower cap than blue gear even if they have the same ilvl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    If you wanna spent the 1125 philo stones for the materials, go for it.
    wasn't gonna waste stones on it, was contemplating buying one or 2 of the pieces.

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    I couldn't answer that certainly but I remember the adage sort of being that the HQ stats on a piece were generally the stat cap. Idk if that was ever debunked or what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarian View Post
    That's exactly what I'm contemplating, going for the legs myself, since DL ones are poop (I already have a lot of accuracy, 500 right now, I don't know how much I need for the coil, I'm at 500 and hitting 100%, I think it's most likely around 450 tops)

    What I don't know is; Does the stats go as far as DL? ie; DL has 20/22/27 str/vit/acc can i get the Gryphonskin to 22/22/27/22 str/vit/crit/det with melds or does green gear have a lower cap than blue gear even if they have the same ilvl?
    I couldn't answer that certainly but I remember the adage being that the HQ stats on a piece were generally the stat cap. Idk if that was ever debunked or what.

    Quote Originally Posted by arlee View Post
    wasn't gonna waste stones on it, was contemplating buying one or 2 of the pieces.
    Have you priced them? If people even make them on your server you can expect the pieces to cost what someone that just spent 1125 philo stones would charge (a lot).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    I couldn't answer that certainly but I remember the adage sort of being that the HQ stats on a piece were generally the stat cap. Idk if that was ever debunked or what.
    This is correct.

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    Er, out of curiosity I went to check a few things myself and found that I can still add more crit to my HQ imperial operative wristlets.

    So I'm not so sure about that now.

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    The cap on those is the skill speed #

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    Generally it's the primary attribute (STR MND etc) that is capped on the HQ piece. Secondary stuff (Det Crit Acc) and attributes that weren't on the piece (like VIT on a MND ring or something) can usually still be added to some extent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Generally it's the primary attribute (STR MND etc) that is capped on the HQ piece. Secondary stuff (Det Crit Acc) and attributes that weren't on the piece (like VIT on a MND ring or something) can usually still be added to some extent.
    When there is an off stat, like those wristlets, the cap is always the higher number. So if its 9 skill speed an 6 crit, you can add 3 crit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fievel View Post
    When there is an off stat, like those wristlets, the cap is always the higher number. So if its 9 skill speed an 6 crit, you can add 3 crit.
    So Fievel-bro, what's the list of gear that one should have right before Relic/Allagan? Just level'd up to 50 and trying to get out of the noobness.

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