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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuishen View Post
    the worse selling non-mmo FF.
    I'm pretty sure every time someone tries to say this, it gets countered with actual data showing that XIII sold quite well.

    edit: here you go

    VII = 9.8 mil
    VIII = 8.1 mil
    IX = 5.3 mil
    X = 6.6 mil
    XII = 5.2 mil
    XIII = 6.9 mil

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ng_video_games

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    I don't want to really turn this into a "XIII sucks, no it doesn't" thread but I enjoyed the battle system. Moreso than XII where I felt I had way too many options. I like the streamlining and launching poor bastards into the air and airjuggling to death. XIII-2 made great improvements to the battle system; a shame that it was basically Pointless Unnecessary Filler: The Game. You can probably guess how I feel about Lightning Returns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stromgarde View Post
    We're already getting Crystal Tower from FFIII, so why not Kefka's Tower from FFVI? It'd be a great way to use the three-party alliance system.
    Honestly when they first announced the idea I was replaying FFVI and had just gotten to that point. I nearly died from POSSIBILITIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Same. To this day I'm still hoping for a Gilgamesh fight on a giant bridge.
    ^

    Pretty sure this will happen, on the Highbridge no less. When is the question now though. And how. Because fuck a Gilgamesh FATE.

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    Me and my FC were talking about how cool it would be to have a Yvora fate where the fate doesnt appear on the map or start till someone walks under the Yvora ala sea. And for the lawls its a chain fate and when you kill it AV spawns and Meteors everyone to death.

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    Imagine that wouldn't be too hard to do. They already have the "ohshit" thing with the Eft boss in Brayflox's where the dragon plops down and says "sup guys".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    ^

    Pretty sure this will happen, on the Highbridge no less. When is the question now though. And how. Because fuck a Gilgamesh FATE.
    I really wish they'd can the idea of FATEs on the scale. Though yeah I never thought of Highbridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Moreso than XII where I felt I had way too many options.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ction/rage.png

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    Look man I was playing FFXI at the same time. Why would I play FFXI twice.

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    My femcat wants the Bum-coat. Why you gotta gender-restrict, SE?

    And while we're crossing over other FF's, we might as well go to the fucking moon ala FF4. The other moon, without the bigass dragon inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyanoko View Post
    My femcat wants the Bum-coat. Why you gotta gender-restrict, SE?

    And while we're crossing over other FF's, we might as well go to the fucking moon ala FF4. The other moon, without the bigass dragon inside.
    Or the underworld.

    Also, Black Waltzes from FF9.

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    Yep. I feel the same.
    I wish we could just burn every single person who says things like that.

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    I'll rephrase then. Too many useless/obsoleted options.

    XI:XIV::XII:XIII
    clusterfuck of moves : streamlined

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    I'll rephrase then. Too many useless/obsoleted options.

    XI:XIV::XII:XIII
    clusterfuck of moves : streamlined
    Have you played more than 4 FF games?

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    Every main entry except III. Is it wrong to compare the 2 with auto-controlled parties (XII/XIII) directly?

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    XII didn't have auto-controlled parties as much as it had the option for auto-controlled parties... but you established here that you hate options so I guess no one should be surprised at this response.

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    Saying you have the option of playing without gambits is like saying you have the option to play without junctions, espers, materia, subjobs, sphere grid, license board, garment grid, job change, a controller, etc. Average player won't.

    You seem to be confusing my stance for a hatred of "options". Is there a difference between a game where you spam the best ~5 moves of ~100 and one where you spam the best ~5 moves of ~10?

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    Except you know, even with auto controlled parties in FF12 you could swap characters at any time and queue up moves for people. Nothing like that in 13. The systems were not close to the same at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Saying you have the option of playing without gambits is like saying you have the option to play without junctions, espers, materia, subjobs, sphere grid, license board, garment grid, job change, a controller, etc.
    This ain't even close to the truth. Especially if you play in wait mode. 100% control, 0% handicap.
    What are you talking about?


    Also, there weren't many useless abilities in XII til lategame. That's actually a big problem with the series in general though... most of the abilities become worthless due to the damage cap and XII is no exception.
    I will admit some of the techniques are hard to use in XII but many can be used to great effect.

    Hell, even Espers are good despite the fact that most people say they aren't. If you know their triggers, most of them are pretty amazing spike damage through most of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Every main entry except III. Is it wrong to compare the 2 with auto-controlled parties (XII/XIII) directly?
    You seem to hate meaningless options. Just wondering if you've played more than 4 FFs games. Or hell, more than 4 RPGs in general.

    Yeah, some stuff gets obsolete and some stuff is useless. More at 11. But I'm sure those games are more guilty than the others.