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    Considering that like 10% of SCH actually DPS properly (or at all) I would think it fine.

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Shit just cracks me up. They rarely have to cast a heal because they've got six fucking fairies doing the job for them. I am waiting for the OF QQ of "THIS IS REPLACING DPS"

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    Not to mention 18 Lustrates per minute, potentially.

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    I just wanted to get some clarification on how the safe spots work. Is it a static location like Seravi says or is it better to go by what Dammerung says and tank him where the last dash ends? I got bitched at in a PF group today because I was positioning Ifrit wrong, I did the clock thing. The other tank said if Ifrit is tanked at the 12 oclock mark, after dashes, the safe spots are around 9, 10, and 11 oclock?

    I've just heard/read multiple things and would like to actually know. My experience is limited with extreme ifrit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Way I've always remembered:
    First safe spot for plumes is 1 oclock.
    2nd is 2oclock
    3rd is 3oclock.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dammerung View Post
    The last dash ends in the next safe spot.

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    Both are right, however there is also are always 2 safe spots. One is on the opposite side of the arena (so like 7/8/9 o'clock). I dunno about that 9/10/11 though. The safe spots are more like divisions of 8 rather than 12 (like the dashes are, 4 Ifrits and 4 "empty" spots) so it's around the same region though.

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    I tank it dead East (where he starts) so that nails are always nearby to DPS while tanking. North probably works too but I've never bothered. From North on the map I don't know how any of the safe zones could be at 9/10/11 unless you read clocks backwards. The ones I use (on the East half of the map) will spawn at 1:30-ish/2:30-ish/3:30-ish. Regardless of how you choose to figure out where they are, they will always be in the same locations.

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    Yea its static and its not exactly at 1/2/3 oclock but just a bit past it. Its more between 1-2 o'clock, 2-3 o'clock and 3-4 o'clock.

    Direct opposite side is also the safe spot, and going by dashes, the last spot he lands will also be the next safe spot so its best to tank him there to get a general idea.

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    Thanks guys

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    Another question, when im the tank that gets chained during nails, I try to stand far enough away from group that the upcoming eruption doesnt happen in the middle of the dps, and no one has to move.

    Should I just stand next to the DPS im chained to and when the eruption pops everyone runs? The chain dmg is tolerable at 3 stacks or so, or is the dmg output reduction bad enough that i should hold hands with the dps im chained to?

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    I try to discern the max distance I can stand and still be at 1-stack so you get the best of both worlds. The DPS won't have to run far (if at all) at max 1-stack chain range.

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    As a tank I stand next to the DPS I'm chained to and assist with nails they're fighting until the other tank who has Ifrit gets 2 stacks of incinerate or w/e it's called on them, in which case I run back and wait for them to get 3, the chained DPS usually follows me and attacks somethin close by

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    The nail-ruptions are timed every 30-ish seconds after the first one, so it's not difficult to realize an Eruption is coming soon and to move. They typically follow the Inferno Howls, but not always.

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    So based on math, is there any reason why BRD should not be spending nail phases exclusively doing the following:

    1) Make sure Straight Shot is up (/use buff CDs)
    2) Fire Bloodletter
    3) Use Windbite on a nail that doesn't have it
    4) Heavy Shot or something

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    Tack on a "sing Requiem if the group is BLM/SMN-heavy", and it sounds like what I do. I mean, what else can a Bard do? Dare I ask what brought that question up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    So based on math, is there any reason why BRD should not be spending nail phases exclusively doing the following:

    1) Make sure Straight Shot is up (/use buff CDs)
    2) Fire Bloodletter
    3) Use Windbite on a nail that doesn't have it
    4) Heavy Shot or something
    Is there something else a BRD can do in general?

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    Focusing a nail instead of spreading Windbite, basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    3) Use Windbite on a nail that doesn't have it
    As a person who has to heal ifrit.

    Don't fucking spread your dots. Just focus one nail at a time until it is dead, it isn't a race.

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    Spreading DoTs shouldn't affect you, as a healer, in any way unless they're doing something else wrong (i.e. don't DoT ALL of the nails, just a few).

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilbubbles View Post
    As a person who has to heal ifrit.

    Don't fucking spread your dots. Just focus one nail at a time until it is dead, it isn't a race.
    What? I've healed it plenty of times and there's nothing wrong with SMN/BRDs DoTing nails in the opposite direction. It's not like those DoTs are going to blow two up at the same time. You end up having nails near half health by the end of the circle, not a big deal at all.

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    Unless every single dps in your Ifrit is a SMN or BRD, you do not have to worry about simultaneous kabooms from DoT spreading that much.

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