Paladin VS Warrior : Battle of the Off Tank DPS

**Taint** · 2014-09-18 12:43

If you are MTing WTF is your PLD doing at only 114? Is he your kiter?

**Ramset** · 2014-09-18 13:38

Originally Posted by Taint

If you are MTing WTF is your PLD doing at only 114? Is he your kiter?

Clearly he hasn't read this thread lol

**Kacey** · 2014-09-18 13:50

Yeah uh I don't wanna go there >_>... he gets the OT job done so that's enough that for me lol, being third character and all.

**Kirbyprime** · 2014-09-18 16:03

Probably in shield oath the entire time. I'm still grumpy that I only dealt around 180~ or so. Though I have a tank that can keep hate now so time to push it I guess.

**Arthars** · 2014-09-19 12:44

sorry but wats a good dps for warrior in turn 8?

**Carraway** · 2014-09-19 13:14

Originally Posted by Arthars

sorry but wats a good dps for warrior in turn 8?

Ranging anywhere from 250-300+ with two tanks but it heavily depends on how your group does it.

**Arthars** · 2014-09-19 13:31

ok im in acceptable range then! will work harder +_+ doing 293 today with a death(2 far mines + gas....)

or is it ACT being wierd after patch... noticed higher numbers than usual

first time in a PT where MT holds dread. not sure why they want me to go war except eating mines...

**Ramset** · 2014-09-23 21:55

Originally Posted by Kacey

So does that make 272 as MT in T7 decent? Or not since you're 100% on the boss.

Reporting back. My main tank parse this week:

(Zero requested I note that he died so everyone didn't think he's bad.)

http://puu.sh/bLu9P/d4f8e3409c.png

**Kirbyprime** · 2014-09-24 00:25

All that means is that he bad for dying?

**Judai** · 2014-09-24 02:44

Originally Posted by Kirbyprime

All that means is that he bad for dying?

I was mpk'd tyvm! Person with shriek stood way too far away and got me, as I was more focused on getting through the group and not fire circling anyone, and didn't notice the awful shriek placement.

It actually kinda pissed me off cause it was on of the few times I really tried to push my DPS and I was like 350+ while kiting until I got killed. Healers didn't have swift up so I was dead a little while and never got a chance to get Garuda back up. (yet I still somehow beat the person who mpk'd me) Just kind of funny that almost every time Cage has one of his best parses, my dps is lower then normal, lol.

**Kacey** · 2014-09-24 14:59

Originally Posted by Ramset

Reporting back. My main tank parse this week:

(Zero requested I note that he died so everyone didn't think he's bad.)

Spoiler: show

It's okay we know Zero's bad. That's pretty damn good though. Was that with Defiance off for some parts of the fight and full STR accs? I was pushing 295~300 this week but we kept dying due to stupid stuff so I ended up settling for a more conservative 275 in full STR accesories bar Neckpiece.

**Ramset** · 2014-09-24 15:48

3

Originally Posted by Kacey

It's okay we know Zero's bad. That's pretty damn good though. Was that with Defiance off for some parts of the fight and full STR accs? I was pushing 295~300 this week but we kept dying due to stupid stuff so I ended up settling for a more conservative 275 in full STR accesories bar Neckpiece.

Yeah, I was stance dancing. Full i110 STR accessories, and amazing healers. Was really fun actually, a good change from OT which I have grown to hate in that fight.

**Kacey** · 2014-09-24 16:05

Amazing healers and a big pair of steel balls indeed. The couple times I stance danced I was clenching my butthole every time it did the back-to-back cleaves (Red whatever + Tail Slap) that dropped me to <2k.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-09-24 16:14

I'm only disappointed I wasn't pushing amazing numbers myself; even with Ruby accs and only having Shield Oath up for the dancers and prosector it feels like I should've been higher. Granted that's a lightning-fast clear time so "only" for those is still like 1/3rd in Shield Oath, lol.

**Ramset** · 2014-09-24 16:36

I still saved cooldowns accordingly the best I could. I've got a prety good feel for Tail Slaps, etc so I still attempted to "tank" the boss but it definitely requires balls to the wall.

Also, Seravi, I think that's an important point that you spent a decent chunk of the whole encounter on.adds in Shield Oath; you also don't.get Storm's Eye bonus there. I'll check other parses later to see how your main tank numbers compare.

**BerenTebogo** · 2014-09-24 19:14

That is some bravery for T7. I just can't bring myself to try something like that in T7 when it takes my groups full 100% attention to even clear it normally these days during our 1-day-per-week log in.

Also since I'm only on one day a week I've switched back to using Novus for coil so no more interesting parses from me in the foreseeable future!

**amadouche** · 2014-09-24 22:53

Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez

I'm only disappointed I wasn't pushing amazing numbers myself; even with Ruby accs and only having Shield Oath up for the dancers and prosector it feels like I should've been higher. Granted that's a lightning-fast clear time so "only" for those is still like 1/3rd in Shield Oath, lol.

You can probably stay in Sword Oath for the Prosector and pop everything.

**Kirbyprime** · 2014-09-24 23:29

I've tried in my old static, you can technically sword oath everything and it's not really dangerous, though whether your healers will want to stab you is another question.

**amadouche** · 2014-09-24 23:31

Originally Posted by Kirbyprime

I've tried in my old static, you can technically sword oath everything and it's not really dangerous, though whether your healers will want to stab you is another question.

I think it's very safe to stay in Sword Oath for at least two of the Melee adds, and just go Shield Oath + Foresight (probably not even needed) for the other one.

**Renavi** · 2014-09-25 12:01

For PLD, if you had to choose a stat, DET or Parry? Assuming MT during progression. Parry just seems kind of useless to me but that's why I'm asking.

Oops, posted in the wrong thread. x.x

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