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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwahm View Post
    You seriously think it takes 200,000 experience to get 1500 cp?
    Yes, because CP doesn't chain. My XP:CP ratio was easily breaking 10:1 when I was messing around with it this morning.

    Edit: I may have misunderstood. But still, you'd get several times that many cp if you're talking about the time to get 20 merits in abyssea (30 minutes or so).
    200k XP Solo/Trust in Adoulin shouldn't take most people who farm AAs and thus actually need the merits more than an hour and a half.

    EDIT: OH SHIT typo + not paying attention :*(

    I meant 15,000 CP, not 1500. The point still stands, though: KIs are not a long term here.

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    It's all ok we'll cap CP before getting enough KI in skirmish III!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    Yes, because CP doesn't chain. My XP:CP ratio was easily breaking 10:1 when I was messing around with it this morning.
    Farming out in Ceizak, I was getting a roughly 5:1 ratio with chain 5s. It depends on mob level in a different scale than exp, it seems.

    However, to get 1500 CP with 200,000 exp, you'd need a 133:1 ratio, not 10:1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seha View Post
    The cp gain rate is excessively low. I understand it's meant to be a longterm thing, but there is also too much at some point.

    Yeah, in VW...
    And in soa. Killing high level stuff is still fast xp. More important than are people doing it is it can be done and still done quickly

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    I'm a bit sorry that once they manged to bring back people to VW in mass with the Relic reforge materials and AA farm, now I'm afraid it might slow things down a bit instead of furtherly accelerating them.
    I seriously think they're going to release some minor tweaks to CP and the ratios in the future.

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    On another note, for people wanting to gear for Woh Gates, Serac Rabbits (level 126) have 1021 Defense and 1032 Evasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    And in soa. Killing high level stuff is still fast xp. More important than are people doing it is it can be done and still done quickly
    People don't merit in VW because it's faster than killing high-level stuff in Ulbuka.

    It may be, but that's not why they do it.

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    That might not be the only reason, maybe not even the main one, but it's undoubtely one of the reasons though.
    Especially for our LS events it works very good (no reduction because of alliance etc)

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    You have two options to get to 20 merits. They'll both take you around an hour and a half from start to finish, give or take. One of these options has a relatively substantial chance to give you an item or two that will sell in the low six figures, and regardless will get you a bunch of vendable crap that ends up at a not insignificant total. The other...does not.

    Your pick!

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    One can be done solo, the other can't. They can't be directly compared like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccl View Post
    It's all ok we'll cap CP before getting enough KI in skirmish III!
    Y'all missed this gem because its spot fucking on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    One can be done solo, the other can't. They can't be directly compared like that.
    Why not? VW is very forgiving right now and it's tremendously easy to make groups. Far easier than putting together the AA you're ultimately going to use the merits for.

    Granted doing something solo is always easier, full stop, but the promise of walking away from an easy VW a couple hundred grand richer at least makes it a wash.

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    Fine then continue to do either waste tons of time focusing on cp or making small amounts of gil in vw and qq about how you don't have cp because you don't want to combine events. It's your choice really

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    Why not? VW is very forgiving right now and it's tremendously easy to make groups. Far easier than putting together the AA you're ultimately going to use the merits for.

    Granted doing something solo is always easier, full stop, but the promise of walking away from an easy VW a couple hundred grand richer at least makes it a wash.
    Why aren't you getting this?

    If I log in at 5 PM and people I know don't log in until 6ish, then I'm not going to waste my time and sanity gathering up random people for VW. I'm going to derp around solo until it's time to gather my LS...thennnnn I might do VW/AAs/whatever. I'm pretty sure people everywhere run into this scenario where they have an awkward packet of time (or log in during moon-rune time) and want something to do other than yell dumb shit in Adoulin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    Why aren't you getting this?

    If I log in at 5 PM and people I know don't log in until 6ish, then I'm not going to waste my time and sanity gathering up random people for VW. I'm going to derp around solo until it's time to gather my LS...thennnnn I might do VW/AAs/whatever. I'm pretty sure people everywhere run into this scenario where they have an awkward packet of time (or log in during moon-rune time) and want something to do other than yell dumb shit in Adoulin.
    ...if you knew your LS mates who were logging in at 6 wanted to do VW, why would you farm merits solo at 5?

    Maybe instead...

    ...Dynamis for an hour?

    ...Salvage?

    ...squats?

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    Anyone mention that after the first upgrade the point cost increases? Because that sure surprised me and ruined my day.

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    How much was the increase?

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    What's the increase pattern? 10>11 or like 10>15?

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    First upgrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryu View Post
    Anyone mention that after the first upgrade the point cost increases? Because that sure surprised me and ruined my day.
    WTF are you serious?

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