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  1. #61
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    PSA: If you lag even slightly, do not risk getting in that one additional cast/attack when Blighted Bouquet is about to go off. I've died multiple times where I would finish that one last Cure or toss a Regen when its cast was 1/3rd of the way finished and it still ended up killing me anyways.

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    I wrote a Turn 6 guide for my Free Company if anyone is interested. Video included in the post.

    http://curiaregis.guildwork.com/foru...9-turn-6-guide

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    So far it seems the "Super slug" strategy seems to work the best, for at least my group. Drops: Tank feet, healer ear

  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarice View Post
    That's interesting; for two reasons: to have a 500+ cap requirement for Turn 6 when there's still three progressively higher turns, and for the miss rate between 499acc and 479acc is pretty tiny. Also, is there a parse files that show this, just to make sure it wasn't human error?
    T1-5 all had the same acc requirement so I do wonder if SE changed it up and increased the accuracy per turn this time around. That said, people that are parsing accuracy need to take into account what side they are hitting the enemies from. At 470 accuracy, friend never missed in t6 hitting from the rear/flank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post
    T1-5 all had the same acc requirement so I do wonder if SE changed it up and increased the accuracy per turn this time around.
    Wait what? I recall Turn 4 requiring more accuracy than Turn 1/2, and Turn 5 even more than Turn 4. Or am I remembering wrong?

  6. #66
    Tom Wilson will never be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post
    At 470 accuracy, friend never missed in t6 hitting from the rear/flank.
    He got lucky then because i definitely missed many times @471 and occasionally miss at 481ish but those are probably when i cycle around the front to dodge shit.

  7. #67
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarice View Post
    Wait what? I recall Turn 4 requiring more accuracy than Turn 1/2, and Turn 5 even more than Turn 4. Or am I remembering wrong?
    I don't think you are, but I never worried about my accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarice View Post
    That's interesting; for two reasons: to have a 500+ cap requirement for Turn 6 when there's still three progressively higher turns, and for the miss rate between 499acc and 479acc is pretty tiny. Also, is there a parse files that show this, just to make sure it wasn't human error?
    Sorry for the slow response, and also for the incoming horrible formatting; this is 31 minutes and 11 seconds of parsing:

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    TYPE DAMAGE ENCDPS AVERAGE MEDIAN MINHIT MAXHIT RESIST HITS SWINGS TOHIT CRIT%
    All 344,639 184.20 229.61 197 37 1,302 All 1,501 1,502 99.93 18%
    Autoattack 78,809 42.12 227.12 207 81 419 347 347 100.00 19%
    Full Thrust 43,359 23.17 710.80 626 190 1,302 61 61 100.00 26%
    Vorpal Thrust 27,076 14.47 404.12 377 159 769 67 67 100.00 13%
    Chaos Thrust (*) 22,840 12.21 69.42 73 48 127 329 329 100.00 19%
    True Thrust 22,705 12.14 315.35 294 127 586 72 73 98.63 14%
    Phlebotomize 18,855 10.08 369.71 335 220 663 51 51 100.00 16%
    Disembowel 18,432 9.85 472.62 442 350 832 39 39 100.00 10%
    Heavy Thrust 18,329 9.80 295.63 281 127 500 62 62 100.00 13%
    Impulse Drive 18,097 9.67 393.41 363 201 709 46 46 100.00 20%
    Chaos Thrust 17,636 9.43 464.11 478 324 787 38 38 100.00 21%
    Phlebotomize (*) 15,949 8.52 55.38 49 37 112 288 288 100.00 16%
    Jump 14,539 7.77 605.79 717 313 1,072 24 24 100.00 13%
    Leg Sweep 11,765 6.29 301.67 303 197 500 39 39 100.00 23%
    Dragonfire Dive 9,218 4.93 576.13 573 406 833 16 16 100.00 6%
    Spineshatter Dive 3,433 1.83 490.43 430 256 653 7 7 100.00 29%
    Ring Of Thorns 1,958 1.05 244.75 234 219 347 8 8 100.00 13%
    Piercing Talon 1,022 0.55 204.40 190 90 436 5 5 100.00 20%
    Mercy Stroke 617 0.33 308.50 311 306 311 2 2 100.00 0%


    You can see that 1501/1502 hits connected, and that the one which missed was a True Thrust.

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarice View Post
    Wait what? I recall Turn 4 requiring more accuracy than Turn 1/2, and Turn 5 even more than Turn 4. Or am I remembering wrong?
    Main reason Turn 4/5 were thought to require more accuracy is because you have enemies that you end up attacking from the front. You normally attack from the flank/rear in T1/2 so it's not as noticeable. People didn't even know front/flank/rear accuracy was a thing back when they were pinpointing how much accuracy was needed. So the accuracy needed in each turn is the same, you just had to gear for which side you were likely to hit often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post
    Main reason Turn 4/5 were thought to require more accuracy is because you have enemies that you end up attacking from the front. You normally attack from the flank/rear in T1/2 so it's not as noticeable. People didn't even know front/flank/rear accuracy was a thing back when they were pinpointing how much accuracy was needed. So the accuracy needed in each turn is the same, you just had to gear for which side you were likely to hit often.
    I'm pretty sure that is incorrect, I was missing from front on Snake in t1, never miss from the back, same gear in t4 on dread i was missing on occasion from behind, ate acc food, stopped missing from behind on dread.

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    One through four definitely had the same exact acc requirement. I'm fairly positive turn 5 was the same as well, if anything it was only barely higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indomitable Will View Post
    I'm pretty sure that is incorrect, I was missing from front on Snake in t1, never miss from the back, same gear in t4 on dread i was missing on occasion from behind, ate acc food, stopped missing from behind on dread.
    Could have had a bard use Rain of Death on the snakes possibly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukari View Post
    Could have had a bard use Rain of Death on the snakes possibly?
    That would depend on if it was before or after the RoD change (although in either case, honestly, the Bard shouldn't be using RoD).

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    Does anyone know if the slugs are susceptible to Heavy from Blizzard II/Stone, Lethargy or Miasma?

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    Saw BG downed T8 on excal, also whats cool upgrading tome weapons to 110 seems to give it a very cool glow effect

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    Got DRG hands (High Allagan Gauntlets of Maiming) and BRD feet (High Allagan Boots of Aiming) from T6. From left/right chest respectively I believe, if it matters.

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  18. #78
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    If you're implying they cheated well.. you get that unlocked for being in Turn 9. Check the other BG members in Turn 9 and you'll see they have the map unlock as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post
    If you're implying they cheated well.. you get that unlocked for being in Turn 9. Check the other BG members in Turn 9 and you'll see they have the map unlock as well.
    An unknown guild (they're my server; I've even heard of any them) with the same level of progress as BG, at their pace too? Not to mention that prior to 2.2 that hadn't even killed Twintania five times,


    Can you really say that's not suspicious?


    Their lodestone info has updated, so it won't show it anymore, but there was also a SMN in their FC who was sporting 3 High Allagan pieces, but then also had some CT gear mixed in there too, like Crimson Breeches. If the DPS checks are already tight enough in i90, you're not going to make them in i80.

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    Mithra Ero-Sensei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki View Post
    Saw BG downed T8 on excal, also whats cool upgrading tome weapons to 110 seems to give it a very cool glow effect
    Wondering, if those upgrade items are 100% drop rate or not O_o
    hopefully not, or it makes the zodiac, somewhat useless till 2.25 (where you can choose your own stats, and if it goes to 110)

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