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  1. #3021
    Hydra
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    so i've been putting off doing the relic because...

    A) monk weapon looks retarded
    B) its a worse weapon than what i have, so no rush
    C) been prioritizing frontlines/pvp grinding for that sweet sweet glamour (monk is baller status, no lie)

    pvp grinding is coming along nicely, and will have that wrapped up soon, so decided to start taking a super casual stab at zodiac progression

    queued into WP as tank

    i115 blm using scathe, freeze spam, and hardcasting fire 3's for single target. scathe spam during umbral. 0 flares from the massive pulls, 0 flares at all. pretty nonexistant on fire 1's of course.

    also raged at me for being a tank and doing more dps than him.

    either i got severely trolled, or what the fuck

    also i did not receive the item

    queued in 3 more times

    still did not receive item

    im over it

  2. #3022
    Black Belt
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    well i was in a duty finder where everyone is IL 115+

    1st pull we pull everything we can, aoe nicely fuck yeaaaaa

    then healer said "can you please leave? i dont want to deal with huge pulls"

    i said ok, and pull everything 1 by 1, the other 2 peeps were freaking out but you know, healers are everything we have to follow her yooooooooo

    some peeps just retarded

  3. #3023
    Mithra Ero-Sensei
    Sex Manthra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    well i was in a duty finder where everyone is IL 115+

    1st pull we pull everything we can, aoe nicely fuck yeaaaaa

    then healer said "can you please leave? i dont want to deal with huge pulls"

    i said ok, and pull everything 1 by 1, the other 2 peeps were freaking out but you know, healers are everything we have to follow her yooooooooo

    some peeps just retarded
    Main reason I go healer, I can force people to tank masses of mobs...!

  4. #3024
    Ridill
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    yeah when i queue alone i mostly go healer. if the tanks don't like extra packs too fuckin bad cause i just pulled more.

  5. #3025
    Resident Moogle
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    Or you get tanks who pull too much and then expect you to burn all your CDs to keep them alive while they pop only rampart.

    First floor of Pharos is a good indicator or whether a tank knows how to deal with big pulls proficiently or not, since they die real quick if they don't.

  6. #3026
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    that first 2 esbast(sp?) is a fucking pain if a debuff goes through tho..........

  7. #3027
    BG's most likeable Québécois
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    Or you get tanks who pull too much and then expect you to burn all your CDs to keep them alive while they pop only rampart.

    First floor of Pharos is a good indicator or whether a tank knows how to deal with big pulls proficiently or not, since they die real quick if they don't.
    Hey!

  8. #3028
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    that first 2 esbast(sp?) is a fucking pain if a debuff goes through tho..........
    If Sentinel or Vengeance isn't up if that debuff lands the tank is as good as dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Hey!
    I've had some bad run ins with roulette since after we cleared our Zodiacs. Wasn't in reference to you.

  9. #3029

    if the tank doesn't pull enough I'm gonna pull more

    if the tank pulls too much it's his fault

    itt: DF tanks are mindreaders

  10. #3030
    BG's most likeable Québécois
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    if the tank doesn't pull enough I'm gonna pull more

    if the tank pulls too much it's his fault

    itt: DF tanks are mindreaders
    I always get kicked if I pull more then the tank as SCH or the tank just sit there and say (you pull you tank) Kinda annoying

  11. #3031
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    Or you get tanks who pull too much and then expect you to burn all your CDs to keep them alive while they pop only rampart.

    First floor of Pharos is a good indicator or whether a tank knows how to deal with big pulls proficiently or not, since they die real quick if they don't.
    funny this just happened to me. i tell guy to invince, he doesn't have it, it's not a big deal. we get to the spot, i get eye/soil down right as they gather and i literally spammed my 5 charges/adloq and couldn't bring the tank above 2k hp.

    people gotta know if they don't stack CD's hard then you're screwed.

  12. #3032
    Impossiblu
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    a lot of it comes down to bad DPS too. Cooldowns don't last very long, if you have another 20-40 seconds of a fight without any you're probably fucked then too if it's a sufficient pull (like the last 3 groups in Sastasha HM, Botswains are douchebags)

  13. #3033
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    a lot of it comes down to bad DPS too. Cooldowns don't last very long, if you have another 20-40 seconds of a fight without any you're probably fucked then too if it's a sufficient pull (like the last 3 groups in Sastasha HM, Botswains are douchebags)
    It should be a given that if you're seeing fucking BLMs and other DDs with 90 or lower weapons, and shit gear/skill in general that you're probably going to want to hold the fuck up.

    At that point if you're still wanting to GOTTA GO FAST, then you deserve to get your shit slapped. If I had one scrub DD, i'd be sure to find out of the other one can make up for them (and if there's a WHM, hopefully they spam Holy).

    Even Second-Third Coil gear isn't a fucking assurance anymore either, after some of the trash i've seen since 2.45 dropped.

  14. #3034
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    And it is done!

    Spoiler: show

  15. #3035
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmakan View Post
    Stone Vigil is the worst.
    I didn't count, but I must be 0/30ish by now. I have everything else done and ready, but this stupid dungeon hates me!

  16. #3036
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    stone vigil is prob one of the worst dungeon to run with pugs too

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    Stone vigil took me 37 runs

  18. #3038
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    I split Pharos' first floor into two pulls because whenever I think we'll be fine I get pasted by RNG and retards with ST handout weapons.

  19. #3039
    The Real Cookiemonster
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    What questname is the stone vigil one? (I haven't gotten that far yet, but a nin in my fc is there levelwise, I kinda want to get there asap to kill two birds with one stone)

    edit: d'oh, not stone vigil normal! Disregard please!

  20. #3040
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellfury View Post
    What questname is the stone vigil one? (I haven't gotten that far yet, but a nin in my fc is there levelwise, I kinda want to get there asap to kill two birds with one stone)

    edit: d'oh, not stone vigil normal! Disregard please!
    its Stone Vigil HM, so if he is 50 then he is there level wise