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    It was 10% to begin, with 5% increments every two weeks.

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    T6 is rough enough that anybody who needs the 10% buff to beat turn 5 will get so rolled in Turn 6 I'd imagine it to be soul crushing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    T6 is rough enough that anybody who needs the 10% buff to beat turn 5 will get so rolled in Turn 6 I'd imagine it to be soul crushing
    T1-5 the new CT, now with better loot

    speaking of T6, hoping my static downs it again. We pugged a OT+dps to replace 2 bads our in our group and downed t6 within a few attempts teaching the new people how to do the fight the way we've been doing it... those 2 are permanently being replaced this week >.>

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    Rather surprised this patch deserved a version number increase. Just looks like the usual hotfix shit to me.

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    Probably because SE never does hotfixes in the traditional sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    is it the strength of the buff or the buff itself? we've known the Echo was coming to the Coil for some time, though I seem to recall it originally being advertised as 5% at first and not 10%
    you get it just for entering right? it's kind of nuts that you don't even have to die once to get it like the EX primals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    Rather surprised this patch deserved a version number increase. Just looks like the usual hotfix shit to me.
    it's not a hotfix cause the echo is a planned release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    It was 10% to begin, with 5% increments every two weeks.
    Unless they change what they originally said, it's 10% at 2 weeks, 15% at 4 weeks (~April 23), 20% at 6 weeks (~May 7), and 30% at 8 weeks (~May 21, possibly part of 2.25?), with the intent to maintain the 30% level unless people continue to fail hard. That leaves probably 5-6 weeks of 30% buff until 2.3.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Updates/page4

    Guess they backtracked on the incapacitation requirement, though, this was in the original (full) patch notes for 2.2:

    "Players may now enter the Binding Coil of Bahamut via the Duty Finder with a full party.
    * With a later update, the Echo buff will be applied to all party members upon incapacitation. Moreover, a full party will no longer be required to register via the Duty Finder."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    is it the strength of the buff or the buff itself? we've known the Echo was coming to the Coil for some time, though I seem to recall it originally being advertised as 5% at first and not 10%
    Just a bit surprised that it's applied on entry. And yeah, 10% is pretty huge but certainly as advertised ^

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    Maybe after lifting the restrictions back at the start of 2.2 they monitored/tracked wipes vs wins and the former won by an exponential amount? lol

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    I considered that. I also considered that the dart they threw landed in the 10% zone when making the final decision.

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    Wiped to T1 Cad with 10% echo buff.

    Dropped immediately.

    Thanks, PF.

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    Tried T1 for shits and giggles yesterday. Group layout was PLD PLD SCH SCH BRD MNK BLM DRG(me). Each attempt only a single High Voltage was stunned (guessing OT was doing it), and not a single fucking one after that.

    People thought ADS was the boss. I don't think their fragile minds could even comprehend that they were wiping to an "impossible" trash mob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korialstrasz View Post
    Tried T1 for shits and giggles yesterday. Group layout was PLD PLD SCH SCH BRD MNK BLM DRG(me). Each attempt only a single High Voltage was stunned (guessing OT was doing it), and not a single fucking one after that.

    People thought ADS was the boss. I don't think they're fragile minds could even comprehend that they were wiping to an "impossible" trash mob.
    lolol thats hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korialstrasz View Post
    Tried T1 for shits and giggles yesterday. Group layout was PLD PLD SCH SCH BRD MNK BLM DRG(me). Each attempt only a single High Voltage was stunned (guessing OT was doing it), and not a single fucking one after that.

    People thought ADS was the boss. I don't think they're fragile minds could even comprehend that they were wiping to an "impossible" trash mob.
    I've been vote kicked twice by totally different groups for not being able to keep High Voltage on lockdown with Spirits Within, despite having one and then two BRDs (and in the case of the two BRDs, another PLD).

    Yeah.

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    i90 MNK in my DF group yesterday did less DPS in a DF T1 than the PLD and the SMN before you added in pets...

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    I've had nothing but good experiences so far in T1 DF. It was a lot of people's first time but if you take a minute to explain things, it went smoothly.

    A lot of setups we didn't even have a silencer and we just powered through it. Other times, our monks were superstars and had high voltage on lockdown.

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