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    Patch 2.21 Notes

    http://sqex.to/kZk

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    - Solo DF for Coil
    - 10% Echo buff received upon entering (WTF)

    Plus they fixed the text for the Atma quest, and a few bugs.

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    Already said the Echo was coming, just didn't specify how it will be acquired (until now). Don't particularly mind as you can manually turn off the Echo if you so choose.

    Now I can work on getting my Allagan healer and caster set more easily!

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    10% just for entering is pretty lulz. Least Allagan is basically the new darklight, so no1curr.

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    Of course. I still care though because the Allagan healer/caster set looks the best among all gears.

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    10% just for entering is pretty lulz.
    Pretty redic IMHO. I guess they REALLY want more people into Second Turn. Though, having not cleared T5 yet due to holidays, unreliable statics, and focusing on other shit, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

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    That 10% buff isn't going to help anyone clear T5 who wasn't already pretty close to doing it normally. You'll still have to understand the mechanics. What the buff will do is make the DPS checks in phase 3 and enrage irrelevant. If people don't know how to dodge twisters and dives, kill conflags quickly or your off tank hasn't mastered phase 3 you'll still be wiping.

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    A company member of mine just queued up for turn 5 for fun. Said everyone got hit with fireballs and didn't run, then 5 people got stuck in the first conflag that went out.

    That buff isn't gonna help anyone who didn't already have the mental capacity to beat turn 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    That 10% buff isn't going to help anyone clear T5 who wasn't already pretty close to doing it normally. You'll still have to understand the mechanics. What the buff will do is make the DPS checks in phase 3 and enrage irrelevant. If people don't know how to dodge twisters and dives, kill conflags quickly or your off tank hasn't mastered phase 3 you'll still be wiping.
    I'm not entirely sure about phase 3 actually; the additional damage might have a negative effect on your LB-building. Depends on the strategy, of course, though it does concern me a little.

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    Don't need more than LB2, would take really gifted DPS for even that to not happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Don't need more than LB2, would take really gifted DPS for even that to not happen.
    Probably true, at least I don't recall my group being dangerously close to the LB2/3 border. Should probably save those concerns for stronger versions of the buff, though you can probably just plow through the snakes without LB by then.

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    Yeah our group never has LB3 on snakes and get by fine as we have one BLM double flare them while the LB is going off. Plus that extra 10% DPS would more than make up for groups used to doing it with 3 bars who now have to do it with 2.

    I suppose where the echo helps is making the phases shorter. Groups having problems with twisters for example will get through the phase faster with less twisters to dodge. But even that's only going to be 15-20 seconds and if your group can survive that far into the phase they can probably survive that bit extra.

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    Best thing you can now see how much time remaining to the venture without 'summoning' the retainer

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    The Echo buff isn't going to magically carry people through Twintania, it only helps those that are already close to mastering the fight. I've been doing a bunch of Primals since its implementation and it's been true for all of them so far. If you don't dodge shit you still die, it only helps with the DPS checks/intensive healing phases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Best thing you can now see how much time remaining to the venture without 'summoning' the retainer
    You already could by looking in the Timers menu, I haven't logged in yet but what's changed?

    And yea, the echo is just gonna lower the DPS/healing checks for the fights.

    It's not gonna stop people from getting gibbed by twisters or divebombed into death walls, assuming they even make it that far.

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    When you click the usmmoning bell it shows the time

    (didnt know about the timer) lol

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    I am assuming it tells you time left at the screen where you can select retainer? That'd be pretty cool actually. I always forget about the timers screen.

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    via reddit.

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    Also the camera bug with leaving/re-entering the window via mouse is fixed. Thank god.

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    I've been hearing hilarious stories of coil DF all morning... unfortunately, I'm not masochist enough to try that, only masochist enough to animus all the classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfin View Post
    Pretty redic IMHO.
    is it the strength of the buff or the buff itself? we've known the Echo was coming to the Coil for some time, though I seem to recall it originally being advertised as 5% at first and not 10%

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