Yeah, it is a definite tragedy that this happened because Hamas violated another cease-fire. I wish they cared about the people that they claim to govern.
Yeah, it is a definite tragedy that this happened because Hamas violated another cease-fire. I wish they cared about the people that they claim to govern.
Murdering the family of your enemy - what is this, the mafioso?
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So does this change anything?
Hamas Responsible For Abducting Israeli Teens
Odd of them to admit to that but it's their funeral if they did.
There isn't really a doubt that Hamas is retarded.
The real issue is that the citizens are suffering and are submitting to the will of people who are getting them killed.
So after the idea that Israeli claims that Hamas leadership was behind it was behind is is shot down because it's revealed they knew it was an independent group Hamas goes and does this? Jesus that's retarded. That counteracts the very point of having that sort of splinter cell to take the fall if their shit goes badly.
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/killed...onslaught.html
Doesn't look like an exile in Turkey speaks on behalf of all of Hamas
Hugh Lovatt, Israel and Palestine coordinator at the European Council on Foreign Relations, said that while al-Arouri was a significant Hamas figure – serving as the group's most prominent representative in Turkey – the former militant could have an ulterior motive for making his claim.
"Given the timing I would be very suspicious about his claim. I still don't believe Hamas as an organisation and its upper echelons sanctioned the kidnappings – something that Israeli intelligence also believes," he said.
Lovatt said that al-Arouri may be trying to claim credit for the actions of others in an attempt to demonstrate his own continued sway in the West Bank and Hamas's ability to hit Israel after failing to secure significant concessions after six weeks of violence in Gaza.
Those deaths absolutely do matter, ridiculous strawman aside, but they are chiefly imputable to Hamas.
What's Israël supposed to do? Not fire back at terrorists hiding behind human shields? Let themselves be killed just because Hamas launches its rockets from school playgrounds?
Those deaths are obviously tragedies, but it's extremely simplistic to impute them to Israël.
Sure it is: "Allah Vult." (translate into arabic) It's the same as ever.Originally Posted by archi
Pretexts are just that, pretexts; the real motivation behind terrorism is the same as it has always been and will always be: religion.
Giving into their demands (as was advocated early in the thread) won't reduce terrorism, it'd just help give them better tools to jihad with.
The argument remains the same:
1. this life doesn't matter, only the afterlife does, and for that you need to get into <insert deity>'s good graces.
2. <insert deity> demands you kill all heathens/infidels/heretics/...
If someone accepts those 2 axioms, there's naught you can do to change their mind, and the mind of a 14yo is impressionable enough to be easily convinced of those "truths", especially when he's been raised from birth to believe the first one.
^actually believes this shit lol
Great arguments, archi. As usual, you substitute bullying for actual rebuttal... because there are no rebuttals.
Quit reading Haaretz and bringing already debunked propaganda leaflets to this thread.
Israeli IDF whistleblower describing what we all knew what is really going on inside the settlements and Gaza
watching the rest of this episode, hearing one of the Gaza reporters just rattle off all the witnessed accounts of IDF using Palestinians as human shields, camping in their houses to snipe their neighbors, preventing people who return the next day to look for lost family from the rubble, etc.
Then there's the protocol they have in place, for any of their soldiers who get captured, to obliterate the surrounding area in order to prevent any messy political situations where the extreme right wing would have to do a prisoner swap. Shit is ugly.
A little history lesson to coincide with the Palestinian children that get to return to school to entire portions missing of their buildings and classmates.
PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization) evacuation came after an agreement negotiated by the American envoy to end the Israeli siege of Beirut and not invade it if PLO fighters evacuated Beirut and left the country.
Soon after PLO evacuation, on the 15th of September, the Israeli army reoccupied West Beirut breaching the agreement, IDF surrounded Sabra and Shatila camp securing its entries and exits. Soon after, around 3,500 civilians, mostly Palestinians and Lebanese Shiites, were brutally murdered in Sabra and Shatila
New tapes show Israel's attack on USS Liberty was deliberate
http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/w...article/412229
In a devastating documentary aired by Al Jazeera America on October 31st, never-before-heard Israeli military tapes show that the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty, which killed 34 American sailors, was deliberate.
Welp, so much for those who like to dismiss important moments in history as conspiracy theories.
Bullets bend.