Israel vs. Gaza round 99

[kuronosan]

I mean the over arching Arab and Jew conflict mainly Kuya, not this in particular. But what you said is very well thought out, and I agree with what you're saying. Just getting it to happen is the part I'm skeptical about. Because there is always the chance of people going back on their word(this is true for both sides) and then we are back at square one, except without control of the West Bank/Gaza.

Edit: I didn't see archi's post until after I posted mine. But I agree with what he said.

Now how the hell can you agree with archi and disagree with everyone else when he's saying exactly the same thing as everyone else is?

[Aurara]

Now how the hell can you agree with archi and disagree with everyone else when he's saying exactly the same thing as everyone else is?

Because he has a point, its incredibly easy to sell the idea of terrorism to a 14 year old who has nothing else to live for, if Israel withdrew from settlements then there might be a chance of people to see things differently, but until that happens it won't be much different. I see both sides' points, which makes me look hypocritical when I say one thing about an issue then say something different.

Edit: I didnt disagree with Kuya, I just have a pessimistic outlook because it can either end up with something good coming about, or back to square one again.

[BaneTheBrawler]

Because he has a point, its incredibly easy to sell the idea of terrorism to a 14 year old who has nothing else to live for, if Israel withdrew from settlements then there might be a chance of people to see things differently, but until that happens it won't be much different. I see both sides' points, which makes me look hypocritical when I say one thing about an issue then say something different about the exact same issue.

Edit: I didnt disagree with Kuya, I just have a pessimistic outlook because it can either end up with something good coming about, or back to square one again.

i bolded the reason people are confused by you. kuya said doing X might give people less reason to hate israel, and you disagreed (with that item in particular, you even bolded it), then agreed with archi when he explained why he thinks kuya is right.

[Aurara]

That makes sense, I apologize for being confusing. I should clarify then, what I wanted to get across was that terrorist organizations wouldn't stop just because Israel withdrew/removed/got rid of settlements. The other stuff about children I completely agree with. Sorry I got confused myself >_>;

[BaneTheBrawler]

well sure, but part of kuya/archi's point is that israel'd reduce the recruiting power (and therefore strength) of those organizations by not being such dicks all the time. they're acting like the republicans in congress; you can't get what you want just by screaming "NO" at your opponent and then doing things that make you your opponent's best recruiter.

[Aurara]

Yeah, I think it's in part that the PM of Israel is very VERY conservative and that really doesn't help Israel's situation in the slightest because of what you said.

[Xno Kappa]

What would Elvis do?

[BaneTheBrawler]

turn water into israel

[kuronosan]

He'd feel so lonely he could die like a hound dog all shook up from a jack to a king.

Don't be cruel.

[Qalbert]

seeing a lot of tweets about israel using white phosphorous, don't know the source

[Byrthnoth]

seeing a lot of tweets about israel using white phosphorous, don't know the source

This thread now feels like CNN.

[Meresgi]

This thread now feels like CNN.

Gaza shot down the Malaysian Flight, we can neither confirm or deny this but sources are speculating it was a very very long range rocket attack. It could have also been a black hole.

[Corresapolonia]

interesting video but some incoherent stuff in it and the usual dependency on "feelings" ("how would you feel when").
Other than that it's quite entertaining.

[Headspace]

seeing a lot of tweets about israel using white phosphorous, don't know the source

- Jerry Dantana

[Qalbert]

I worded that poorly. I meant is this just some thing going around twitter, or is there an actual source/did something happen.

[notorious bum]

I think it's just massive doses of tear gas, all the reporters inside Gaza on my TL have said that it burns their eyes and nose, they have been told to cover vents and openings with wet towels. Besides that: no power, no water, many can't flush their toilets, the smell of death, etc.

[Correction]

~80 people massacred in Gaza City. Israel defending itself all over the mutilated bodies of innocent men, women and children.

[notorious bum]

469 killed since war began and 3100 injured, majority children

[Athas]

seeing a lot of tweets about israel using white phosphorous, don't know the source

CNN is now reporting that Martin Walker has indeed been seen in the area.

[Xno Kappa]

Man, I've seen some intense shit in my lifetime but the videos with the kids running from the explosions still gets to me.