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    It turns out the Mayans were almost right..

    (Mods, you can roll this into Miss Piggy's if necessary but I thought it was good enough for a thread.)

    If an asteroid big enough to knock modern civilization back to the 18th century appeared out of deep space and buzzed the Earth-Moon system, the near-miss would be instant worldwide headline news.

    Two years ago, Earth experienced a close shave just as perilous, but most newspapers didn't mention it. The "impactor" was an extreme solar storm, the most powerful in as much as 150+ years.

    "If it had hit, we would still be picking up the pieces," says Daniel Baker of the University of Colorado.

    Baker, along with colleagues from NASA and other universities, published a seminal study of the storm in the December 2013 issue of the journal Space Weather. Their paper, entitled "A major solar eruptive event in July 2012," describes how a powerful coronal mass ejection (CME) tore through Earth orbit on July 23, 2012. Fortunately Earth wasn't there. Instead, the storm cloud hit the STEREO-A spacecraft.

    "I have come away from our recent studies more convinced than ever that Earth and its inhabitants were incredibly fortunate that the 2012 eruption happened when it did," says Baker. "If the eruption had occurred only one week earlier, Earth would have been in the line of fire."

    Extreme solar storms pose a threat to all forms of high-technology. They begin with an explosion--a "solar flare"—in the magnetic canopy of a sunspot. X-rays and extreme UV radiation reach Earth at light speed, ionizing the upper layers of our atmosphere; side-effects of this "solar EMP" include radio blackouts and GPS navigation errors. Minutes to hours later, the energetic particles arrive. Moving only slightly slower than light itself, electrons and protons accelerated by the blast can electrify satellites and damage their electronics. Then come the CMEs, billion-ton clouds of magnetized plasma that take a day or more to cross the Sun-Earth divide. Analysts believe that a direct hit by an extreme CME such as the one that missed Earth in July 2012 could cause widespread power blackouts, disabling everything that plugs into a wall socket. Most people wouldn't even be able to flush their toilet because urban water supplies largely rely on electric pumps.

    Before July 2012, when researchers talked about extreme solar storms their touchstone was the iconic Carrington Event of Sept. 1859, named after English astronomer Richard Carrington who actually saw the instigating flare with his own eyes. In the days that followed his observation, a series of powerful CMEs hit Earth head-on with a potency not felt before or since. Intense geomagnetic storms ignited Northern Lights as far south as Cuba and caused global telegraph lines to spark, setting fire to some telegraph offices and thus disabling the 'Victorian Internet."

    A similar storm today could have a catastrophic effect. According to a study by the National Academy of Sciences, the total economic impact could exceed $2 trillion or 20 times greater than the costs of a Hurricane Katrina. Multi-ton transformers damaged by such a storm might take years to repair.

    "In my view the July 2012 storm was in all respects at least as strong as the 1859 Carrington event," says Baker. "The only difference is, it missed."

    In February 2014, physicist Pete Riley of Predictive Science Inc. published a paper in Space Weather entitled "On the probability of occurrence of extreme space weather events." In it, he analyzed records of solar storms going back 50+ years. By extrapolating the frequency of ordinary storms to the extreme, he calculated the odds that a Carrington-class storm would hit Earth in the next ten years.

    The answer: 12%.

    "Initially, I was quite surprised that the odds were so high, but the statistics appear to be correct," says Riley. "It is a sobering figure."

    In his study, Riley looked carefully at a parameter called Dst, short for "disturbance – storm time." This is a number calculated from magnetometer readings around the equator. Essentially, it measures how hard Earth's magnetic field shakes when a CME hits. The more negative Dst becomes, the worse the storm. Ordinary geomagnetic storms, which produce Northern Lights around the Arctic Circle, but otherwise do no harm, register Dst=-50 nT (nanoTesla). The worst geomagnetic storm of the Space Age, which knocked out power across Quebec in March 1989, registered Dst=-600 nT. Modern estimates of Dst for the Carrington Event itself range from -800 nT to a staggering -1750 nT.

    In their Dec. 2013 paper, Baker et al. estimated Dst for the July 2012 storm. "If that CME had hit Earth, the resulting geomagnetic storm would have registered a Dst of -1200, comparable to the Carrington Event and twice as bad as the March 1989 Quebec blackout."

    The reason researchers know so much about the July 2012 storm is because, out of all the spacecraft in the solar system it could have hit, it did hit a solar observatory. STEREO-A is almost ideally equipped to measure the parameters of such an event.

    "The rich data set obtained by STEREO far exceeded the relatively meagre observations that Carrington was able to make in the 19th century," notes Riley. "Thanks to STEREO-A we know a lot of about the magnetic structure of the CME, the kind of shock waves and energetic particles it produced, and perhaps most importantly of all, the number of CMEs that preceded it."

    It turns out that the active region responsible for producing the July 2012 storm didn't launch just one CME into space, but many. Some of those CMEs "plowed the road" for the superstorm.

    A paperin the March 2014 edition of Nature Communications by UC Berkeley space physicist Janet G. Luhmann and former postdoc Ying D. Liu describes the process: The July 23rd CME was actually two CMEs separated by only 10 to 15 minutes. This double-CME traveled through a region of space that had been cleared out by yet another CME four days earlier. As a result, the storm clouds were not decelerated as much as usual by their transit through the interplanetary medium.

    "It's likely that the Carrington event was also associated with multiple eruptions, and this may turn out to be a key requirement for extreme events," notes Riley. "In fact, it seems that extreme events may require an ideal combination of a number of key features to produce the 'perfect solar storm.'"

    "Pre-conditioning by multiple CMEs appears to be very important," agrees Baker.

    A common question about this event is, how did the STEREO-A probe survive? After all, Carrington-class storms are supposed to be mortally dangerous to spacecraft and satellites. Yet STEREO-A not only rode out the storm, but also continued taking high-quality data throughout.

    "Spacecraft such as the STEREO twins and the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (a joint ESA/NASA mission) were designed to operate in the environment outside the Earth's magnetosphere, and that includes even quite intense, CME-related shocks," says Joe Gurman, the STEREO project scientist at the Goddard Space Flight Center. "To my knowledge, nothing serious happened to the spacecraft."

    The story might have been different, he says, if STEREO-A were orbiting Earth instead of traveling through interplanetary space.

    "Inside Earth's magnetosphere, strong electric currents can be generated by a CME strike," he explains. "Out in interplanetary space, however, the ambient magnetic field is much weaker and so those dangerous currents are missing." In short, STEREO-A was in a good place to ride out the storm.

    "Without the kind of coverage afforded by the STEREO mission, we as a society might have been blissfully ignorant of this remarkable solar storm," notes Baker. "How many others of this scale have just happened to miss Earth and our space detection systems? This is a pressing question that needs answers."

    If Riley's work holds true, there is a 12% chance we will learn a lot more about extreme solar storms in the next 10 years—when one actually strikes Earth.

    Says Baker, "we need to be prepared."
    http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...ul_superstorm/


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    We probably all died on December 21, 2012 and we simply shifted to a parallel universe where we survived

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    i watched a penn and teller special on this. in the end, they called everyone retarded and p. much told them all to go fuck themselves and stop being so fucking stupid

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    gonna watch The Road again just in case. you fuckers will be in my basement with arms and legs missing

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    Can there really be a "Almost right" when it comes to the end of the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrh_Quetz View Post
    Can there really be a "Almost right" when it comes to the end of the world?
    About as much as you can have a "near miss" on anything.

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    thats not true at all

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    The title of the thread is a little joke fyi. I didn't really believe in all that insanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoreyX View Post
    We probably all died on December 21, 2012 and we simply shifted to a parallel universe where we survived
    I actually didn't sleep on December 21st 2012, the sky was green at some points of the night (which never happens here) with screaming howling winds and there was a rumbling in the distance for hours which was probably the shockwave that killed us.

    Worst night ever for that shit to be happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    I actually didn't sleep on December 21st 2012, the sky was green at some points of the night (which never happens here) with screaming howling winds and there was a rumbling in the distance for hours which was probably the shockwave that killed us.

    Worst night ever for that shit to be happening.
    jerked it and slept like a champ

    woke up the next morning like "welp dodged that bullet"

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    Except the Mayan calendar never predicted the end of the world, it's just that one of its cycles came to an end in 2012. So you're basically worrying about something that some people just misinterpreted or made up. People need to stop being so damn superstitious.

    As for this massive solar storm stuff, yes it's been talked about before in popular science magazines and other avenues. Unlikely to happen, but I guess that would be a pretty effective method for cleansing the planet for all those people in other threads who have been wishing for a new plague or ice age.

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    Nah, I was there when they created the calendar. World ended 2012. We're dead, ghosts, and this is hell.

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    guess that explains your presence

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    if the mayans were so smart then how come theyre dead

    myth busted

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler View Post
    guess that explains your presence
    If there was a god, I would go to hell by choice.

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    that's what makes it hell for everyone else

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    We have a lot of Space nerds and what not on here. I love reading about it, but admittedly I am not near as well versed as many of the people here:

    Is there a real risk from a solar flare heavily disrupting our every day lives? I've heard/read stories from every angle.... "it would fry the entire electrical system" plunging us back to the 1800's, to "it wouldn't do much at all".

    I'm sure the answer lies somewhere in between. I'd love to hear info from someone who actually knows what the fuck they are talking about though lol.

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    Also not an astronomer... but I'll take a swing at that one based on recent interesting reading...

    Taking a "direct hit" from a larger flare (like the Carrington Event in 1859) would potentially be Very Bad. Some worst-case predictions include taking out the eastern US power grid and killing GPS and other satellite communication for a while. But the odds that not only is there a huge CME, but that it's also aimed at us is not that great. The ~X45 event in 1859 is estimated to happen every 500 years or so. Research in 2013 shows that a Carrington-level event could cost the US between $.6 and $2.6 trillion in damages.

    My own guess is that it wouldn't literally burn wires like happened to radio lines in storms 50-80 years ago. But it could take out the huge transformers that form the backbone of the electrical grid, and these things have a lead time over a year. So the entire east coast could be in the dark for more than a year. While your home computer would likely be fine, there would be no infrastructure to run it.

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    When I worked at Time Warner, we actually used Solar Flares as a reason for service interruptions. Shit was so hilarious to say to customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    When I worked at Time Warner, we actually used Solar Flares as a reason for service interruptions. Shit was so hilarious to say to customers.
    Yep, many cable companies use this sometimes. I know several people who have been told this by their providers when service was down at one time or another (whether flares were actually interrupting their service at the time or not, I don't know).

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