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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    HMs in general seem to be "easier" in the sense that you finish them much quicker than their regular counterparts.
    Wondering if they will eventually ilvl sync or something past HM's as people progress, they can jsut drag everything in the zone and aoe it down pretty much. Only a few "gates" prevent it... sort of.

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    I seriously doubt they care that much about older content, they'll just continue to tweek newer content to hit harder to the point where if you're not a tank you're most likely getting 2 - 3 shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    The fact that 2.4 includes new items for the Halloween event should be enough to confirm that the patch will be released in October. There's no 2.39 .
    Hello this was my line of thinking but then I saw this:
    http://xivdb.com/?search/!patch-Patch2.38

    Halloween items were added to the game in 2.38, so I'm not as sure about that being the case anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Hello this was my line of thinking but then I saw this:
    http://xivdb.com/?search/!patch-Patch2.38

    Halloween items were added to the game in 2.38, so I'm not as sure about that being the case anymore.
    Cool, I did not know they added an Odin Trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Hello this was my line of thinking but then I saw this:
    http://xivdb.com/?search/!patch-Patch2.38

    Halloween items were added to the game in 2.38, so I'm not as sure about that being the case anymore.
    Since they don't need an update to "turn on" the Halloween event I'm gonna go ahead and say last week of November, first week of December.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    Going to be a joke when they release HM AV and it's easier than normal mode due to the level sync (which syncs ilevel) in the original.
    AV was never really a problem. For some reason it Coincounter just intimidates people because it's the first time they have to face a monster that doesn't give any attack cues beforehand.

    Can bet your top dollar AV will be flooded to hell and back for mass ninja leveling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toth View Post
    Cool, I did not know they added an Odin Trial.
    Also Odin mount. Since the trial is only 15 mins, it almost screams the fact that it will be a Fan Fest trial. That and/or it's a REAL trial and you need to kill Odin in 15 mins before he insta-wipes your party with Shin-Zantetsuken, similar to his Final Fantasy V fight (In FFV you only have 1 minute).

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    I'm sure there will be an enrage on it for Zantetsukin, yeah. I actually didn't catch the fact that their could be an Odin Primal. That'd be really fun.

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    Here's hoping there's no /pray bullshit

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    They also started adding Shiva fight shit. Diamond Dust (and all of Odin's old attacks) and Shin-Zantesuken were added as well "striking resist down" and "ice resist down"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Also Odin mount. Since the trial is only 15 mins, it almost screams the fact that it will be a Fan Fest trial. That and/or it's a REAL trial and you need to kill Odin in 15 mins before he insta-wipes your party with Shin-Zantetsuken, similar to his Final Fantasy V fight (In FFV you only have 1 minute).
    I had the same thought, but so far all of the fan festival trials have been tweaked versions of existing trials. They already announced that the Moogle armor would be the fan-festival exclusive in-game content, so I'm hoping for the latter explanation of a hard-enrage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    AV was never really a problem. For some reason it Coincounter just intimidates people because it's the first time they have to face a monster that doesn't give any attack cues beforehand.
    Personally when I run it I find it's healers that just can't handle the first and third boss damage output, even if fruits are being done right.
    And then low dps dragging things out. It all combines into killlll meeee, frequently literally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthe View Post
    I had the same thought, but so far all of the fan festival trials have been tweaked versions of existing trials. They already announced that the Moogle armor would be the fan-festival exclusive in-game content, so I'm hoping for the latter explanation of a hard-enrage.
    Yeah which is also true and why I proposed it would be another trial-like fight with a much shorter timer. The only irony in my second reasoning is the fact that in any trial if you hit 0:00 you're going to lose regardless, so there might be some mechanic in the fight where he starts counting down after a specific percentage and will just wreck everyone's shit if they don't do enough damage/kill in time, much like FFXI Einherjar and his corresponding FATE. I can't see a rage timer happening because of how Odin has been perceived over the years. He just bops fools if they can't deal damage in time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cantih View Post
    Personally when I run it I find it's healers that just can't handle the first and third boss damage output, even if fruits are being done right.
    And then low dps dragging things out. It all combines into killlll meeee, frequently literally.
    I've honestly never experienced the problem, but I've always been DPS (or tank) in there, so I always do decent enough damage to carry the PT on. I can see bad DPS being a problem on the last boss, especially with how much HP she has and all the stacks of debuffs she can impose. For the second boss however, I've seen and heard of so many unnecessary wipes, as if people cannot /focustarget and watch for a charge bar.

    Now that I think about it, it must really suck for healers, huh? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Yeah which is also true and why I proposed it would be another trial-like fight with a much shorter timer. The only irony in my second reasoning is the fact that in any trial if you hit 0:00 you're going to lose regardless, so there might be some mechanic in the fight where he starts counting down after a specific percentage and will just wreck everyone's shit if they don't do enough damage/kill in time, much like FFXI Einherjar and his corresponding FATE. I can't see a rage timer happening because of how Odin has been perceived over the years. He just bops fools if they can't deal damage in time.
    Yeah, can I see the fight scripted to to end the timer with Shin-Zantetsuken wiping the party instead of simply fading out and starting over.

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    That doesn't really explain the 15 minute timer to me. Lots of fights in this game have enrage but they still do a regular timer because its annoying to have to exit and enter a fight over and over. Fight specific enrages are based from the time you start the fight, not the instance timer.

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    Maybe Sleipnir is the extra reward for getting all the primal mounts. I remember them mentioning something like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    That doesn't really explain the 15 minute timer to me. Lots of fights in this game have enrage but they still do a regular timer because its annoying to have to exit and enter a fight over and over. Fight specific enrages are based from the time you start the fight, not the instance timer.
    The instance itself is 15 minutes long. Though you could still be right too essentially. I'm just seeing it from a lore-based perspective.

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    Weren't things like Hydra and Chimera 15 minute duties?

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    Hmmm I don't think so, not even in 2.0

    Might've been 30? I remember having to wait what felt like forever one time when it glitched out, definitely more than 15.