Patch 2.4 Notes (Preliminary) (10/24/2014)

**Raldo** · 2014-10-24 11:47

Mapping achievements only for Final Coil turns 1 and 2. Turns 3 and 4 confirmed for boss-only battlefield, I guess.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-10-24 11:50

Originally Posted by Niiro

So basically NIN's combos are:

Storm's eye combo (Spin 150-> Gust 200 -> Dancing 260 -slashing 20s)
Full Thrust combo (Spin 150 -> Gust 200 -> Aeolian 320)
2 step Demolish (Spin 150 -> Shadow Fang 200 + 240/18s [440])
Touch of Death (Mutilate 60 + 300/30s [360])

Off GCD they get:

Mug 140 (50% HP absorb with stance)
Jugulate 80 (silence, stun with stance)
Assassinate 200 (under 20% HP)
*Suiton-Trick attack (400)

Their Kiss stances are a constant 20% damage boost.

Mudras all share a recast and have a 5s duration and you need to chain up to 3 of them for some of the effects, so they'll probably have like a 1s Mudra-only "GCD".

The recast time for Ninjutsu appears to vary depending on the skill used (description says recast begins on skill execution) so it's hard to say how often they'll be used.

I get the feeling the recasts will be long enough that you won't be spamming Ninjutsu, it'll be more of an intermittent "use whichever is currently needed" skill.

Piggybacking off of this, Ninjustsu:

1 anything: 240pot ranged attack

anything > Ten: 180pot aoe (Fire 2)
anything > Chi: 360pot (Lightning)
anything > Jin: 140pot + 15s (12s pvp) bind

2anything > Ten: 15% attack speed bonus for 70s
2anything > Chi: Floor AoE (30pot x 8 ticks = 240pot, +Heavy)
2anything > Jin: 180pot (Suiton)

**Niiro** · 2014-10-24 11:52

SO many people are going to switch to NIN not only because it's new or cool, but just so they can play a melee without wanting to pull their fucking hair out.

I'm about ready to put DRG to bed for good and never have to worry about fucking spinning mobs ever again.

**Kaixin** · 2014-10-24 11:54

Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez

Piggybacking off of this, Ninjustsu:

1 anything: 240pot ranged attack

anything > Ten: 180pot aoe (Fire 2)
anything > Chi: 360pot (Lightning)
anything > Jin: 140pot + 15s (12s pvp) bind

2anything > Ten: 15% attack speed bonus for 70s
2anything > Chi: Floor AoE (30pot x 8 ticks = 240pot, +Heavy)
2anything > Jin: 180pot (Suiton)

oh neat didn't realize until now that it's only the last mudra that counts. Durr.

bind and heavy...could we be seeing a mechanic in final coil that requires aoe bind? finally a use for freeze/tri-disaster?

**Sigmakan** · 2014-10-24 11:54

You can do 3 ninjutsu per minute. Since SA/TA recast is also on that timer, should rotate ninjutsu:
Huton (attk speed)
Raiton (dmg)
Suiton (suiton buff for sa/ta)

When Kassatsu is ready (3min recast) use it after Suiton/TA and do Raiton

**Galkaeater** · 2014-10-24 12:01

No passives are listed though

**Niiro** · 2014-10-24 12:02

Originally Posted by Kaixin

bind and heavy...could we be seeing a mechanic in final coil that requires aoe bind? finally a use for freeze/tri-disaster?

Or, like Freeze/Tri, it'll just sit perpetually unused.

**Kaixin** · 2014-10-24 12:04

what's a hippie's favorite jutsu?
Raiton

**Spider-Dan** · 2014-10-24 12:04

Originally Posted by Cantih

I think the withdraw penalty is a little overboard, I'd rather 2 withdraws puts withdraw on a 30 minute cooldown, rather than no duty at all.

Putting withdraw on cooldown is worst possible solution. If someone who doesn't want to play can't withdraw, the logical action for that person is to AFK at entrance until the Vote Dismiss cooldown is up and they get booted.

**Sigmakan** · 2014-10-24 12:06

Originally Posted by Galkaeater

No passives are listed though

From previously mined dats

**Alkar** · 2014-10-24 12:11

Shiva doesn't look too hot. 110 weapons, really? Those accessories will be useless as soon as week 2 unless they happen to be BiS for 120. I thought they had learned from Ramuh but the answer seems to be no.

**Sigmakan** · 2014-10-24 12:13

Originally Posted by Alkar

Shiva doesn't look too hot. 110 weapons, really? Those accessories will be useless as soon as week 2 unless they happen to be BiS for 120. I thought they had learned from Ramuh but the answer seems to be no.

Yeah doesnt make sense. Leviathan was perfect. They should follow that model and make Shiva weapons 115

**kisada** · 2014-10-24 12:16

them adding more pvp shit but then not fixing matchmaking makes me pretty angry

**Kaope** · 2014-10-24 12:17

I don't understand how the suiton + TA can work together when you can't even use hide during battle, can anyone explain that?

TA : Can only be executed when under the effect of Hide, and shares a recast timer with Sneak Attack.
Suiton : Delivers water damage with a potency of 180. Additional Effect: Grants the caster Suiton Duration: 10s
Hide : Cannot be executed while in combat.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-10-24 12:19

Probably skips the need to use Hide for the duration.

**Spider-Dan** · 2014-10-24 12:19

Originally Posted by kisada

them adding more pvp shit but then not fixing matchmaking makes me pretty angry

Party members can now be added to an alliance while players are waiting for a Frontline match to start.

Originally Posted by Kaope

I don't understand how the suiton + TA can work together, can anyone explain that?

TA : Can only be executed when under the effect of Hide, and shares a recast timer with Sneak Attack.
Suiton : Delivers water damage with a potency of 180. Additional Effect: Grants the caster Suiton Duration: 10s

Purportedly, Suiton effect allows you to Hide during battle? Or something.

**Niiro** · 2014-10-24 12:20

Originally Posted by Sigmakan

Also, from previous videos of NIN, the Suiton buff seemed to allow you to do Sneak Attack/Trick Attack while not hidden.

^

If there was no way to execute them without Hide they would be immensely worthless.

**Kelenae** · 2014-10-24 12:20

Why are they releasing new mount and minions when they can just use the cash shop /s

**kisada** · 2014-10-24 12:21

i am talking about wolves den matchmaking. not shitlines.

**Sigmakan** · 2014-10-24 12:22

The suiton debuff should allow you to do SA/TA without being hidden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppn5aGLfxSk
Timestamp 1:07
Finishes Suiton
Gains the suiton buff
1-3 and 1-4 are now lit (meaning they can be used)
1-3 is executed
Suiton buff goes away

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