Thread: 2.4 Dungeons and Trials    

Originally Posted by Niiro

Can the stun effect from the 1st Sastasha boss be Esuna-d?

I swear the very first time I did that dungeon the healer was doing something to remove/prevent the stun effect.

Can't be esuna'd but can be shielded through. If stun claws hits for 0 you won't get stunned. I've had success as a paladin hitting a cooldown and spamming Stoneskin on myself to take 0.

To elaborate, if you watch closely before the stun goes off, you get a Prey effect. Yes, the same Prey effect from Turn-10. Shielding the damage when Prey wears off will keep him from stunning the tank (just like it prevents T10 from doing the paralyze-blast).

The kicker in this fight is that, since it's on the tank, your shield might get knocked off (or low) by simple auto-attacks and such before the damage hits, so you may need to shield more than once.

Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez

That boss can be pacified or stunned, but it only delays the stun-claw.

On top of that, he'll Screw Tail through Pacification.

Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez

In that case, Heavy might work if Stun is fully resisted. I was surprised boss was affected by Heavy.

Heavy definitely works as long as he's not being tanked in the center of the battlefield. You'll get like 2 stacks in the process, but you can easily get the tether to snap with Lethargy. Good luck with stun since melee love to herpaderp.

Originally Posted by Lyall

On top of that, he'll Screw Tail through Pacification.

You can stun it tho, I always stun the first one (only one he does without the tank being stunned), unfortunately most melee never seem to try and stun the others.

Can possibly Fluid Aura it too?

Idk, probably not now that I think about it, it is a boss so probably immune to knockback.

Can pass the prey like in the first boss of Lost City. Just have the healer stand next to the tank, pass prey to him, healer gets stunned, tank stuns tail screw. But its an easy fight so it doesn't really matter either way.

Yeah, the screw drops you to double-digits, and then the dot kills you, so if you remove the dot, whatever happens next doesn't really matter.

Shiva EX question:

Is there some trick to being able to solo tank this, or is it simply the healers powering through the damage? I understand that her sword stance lowers resistance to her bow stance and vice versa (or something like that??). I was originally under the impression that the tanks needed to swap to avoid getting pummeled thanks to the resistance debuff, but solo tank seems to be common.

I'm asking 'cause tank is one of my main jobs and I'm afraid to tank this without any understanding of what's happening. Does a solo tank need to do anything fancier than the usual point-the-sword-cone-at-the-party and drag-shiva-to-the-edge-for-bow-mode?

Originally Posted by Lyall

On top of that, he'll Screw Tail through Pacification.

I sometimes wonder why Pacification even exists, it hasn't been useful on any boss mechanic since the initial HM primals.

Originally Posted by Kirbyprime

I sometimes wonder why Pacification even exists, it hasn't been useful on any boss mechanic since the initial HM primals.

Ifrit is the only one it works on, it's amusing when you use it for full duration near a "phase" tho.

He just stands there doing dick all.

It's also pretty great in PVP. Wait for someone to buff themselves, Bulwark, lock them down via AAs for 10 seconds. I've good for frustrating people. Some dungeons bosses can be stumped with it, too, but that's less important because dungeon bosses.

Their fault for attacking a PLD, much less wasting buffs on them.

(you don't attack tanks in PvP until everyone else is dead)

Yeah, was thinking specifically of back-capping points and one DPS running out to try and force me from the flag. Admittedly this was a while back now so I can only imagine the playerbase has gotten smarter.

I know, I know.

Originally Posted by Lyall

I can only imagine the playerbase has gotten smarter.

Originally Posted by Raldo

Shiva EX question:

Is there some trick to being able to solo tank this, or is it simply the healers powering through the damage? I understand that her sword stance lowers resistance to her bow stance and vice versa (or something like that??). I was originally under the impression that the tanks needed to swap to avoid getting pummeled thanks to the resistance debuff, but solo tank seems to be common.

I'm asking 'cause tank is one of my main jobs and I'm afraid to tank this without any understanding of what's happening. Does a solo tank need to do anything fancier than the usual point-the-sword-cone-at-the-party and drag-shiva-to-the-edge-for-bow-mode?

Yea the only thing i've gathered as far as solo tanking is the tank has to move a lot more and dodge ice circles with everyone else, so re positioning could be stressful, also the group has to be very awake and aware to readjust if shes not in the ideal spot in the middle. CD management is also an obvious tactic.

There's some semi learning parties popping up on balmung with solo tank, which I think is greedy. I dont think semi learned tanks should solo tank shiva, i feel like you should be 100% comfortable with that fight before you attempt solo tanking.

That's what the I knows were for!