Thread: Patch 2.45 Notes    

Oh! I stand fucking CORRECTED, then! Drg got all the cookies this round!

Originally Posted by Lucavi

Oh! I stand fucking CORRECTED, then! Drg got all the cookies this round!

I was curious about your previous post lol I couldn't tell wtf was going on

I missed the mdef buff for drgs in the patch notes. I woke up thinking "yeah its all good and well but they still get one-shot by every AOE mechanic!"

Not anymore, apparently. Having such low mdef was a strange thing anyway. It was like a penalty just for being drg. Nobody else suffered from it.

"Here's some extra damage tossed in your face! Thanks for playing loldrg!"

Originally Posted by Niiro

Without an update ACT would only mildly underestimate the damage output because it doesn't have the increased DoT potencies (+5 for CT and +5 for Phleb), everything else is right there in the log.

But how ACT estimates dot is based on the potency of other attacks (now that Full Thrust/Chaos has gone up) it might be overestimating DRG stats.
edit: new ACT released - does look like previous ACT was overestimating dot damage, dps dropped slightly to more expected levels.

Originally Posted by StUfF

But how ACT estimates dot is based on the potency of other attacks (now that Full Thrust/Chaos has gone up) it might be overestimating DRG stats.
edit: new ACT released - does look like previous ACT was overestimating dot damage, dps dropped slightly to more expected levels.

ACT, as far as I know, only estimates from the other attacks the crit rate of dot ticks. The rest is based on the potency of the skill, which it has stored. So, if ACT has stored lower potencies than the real ones, it should be underestimating DoT damage.

Originally Posted by Charismatic

Was supposed to be offset by the fact that they are higher phys def than the other non-tank classes. They didn't design their game in a way that made this useful though, of course.

True. I still wanted to see more of an evasive focus with Drg by use of a drastically lowered cooldown on elusive jump and an allowance of raid mechanics that didn't simply involve stacking on top of one another and stacking hots/shields for the "big hit": IE megaflare. A drg being able to reliably leap out of danger would have been nice, but as it stands, elusive can be used so infrequently that it might as well not be there.

Drg's Mdef issue wouldn't have as big of a crippling factor if they could actually do like Drgs of old and AVOID damage.

Originally Posted by Niiro

But it wouldn't know how to value the damage of the DoT ticks of a given potency without inferring the attack power of the user to some extent.

Otherwise the parse would spit out the same DoT damage from someone in full i120 and someone naked using a broken weathered spear.

Ah,, true, so true. If the plugin is still assuming the old potencies of Full Thrust and Chaos Thrust, then it will think the potency > damage multiplier of that player is larger than it really is, and then if it applies it to the DoTs, even with the old potencies, the final result can very well be higher than reality.


On the other hand, I just reparsed our DRG DPS on T10 today (we did T10 without the update, then updated the plugin and reparsed the fight) and it resulted in the exact same DPS. Probably just a coincidence, though.

Originally Posted by StUfF

Exact same sounds too good to be true - not sure 100% how re-parsing works but the easiest way to check if dots are simulating correctly would probably be comparing the dot ticks in game vs the simulated ones.

I'm not too sure either, but at least some things get recalculated, like the time of inactivity to end the parse. I've had T9 parses split into several pieces because I forgot to change the 6 seconds I use on a training dummy to the 20 I use on coil/primals, and then I have reparsed those with 20 seconds and got a continuous one. So, at leas that is recalculated, and I assuemd (maybe wrongly) that the potencies would, too.