Heavensward Preliminary Patch Notes Discussion

[Ramset]

Determination caught that hella nerf, lol.

Yeah -- that shit's weak. Don't really understand why....

It was probably those fucking melee Summoners!

[Deader2818]

Oh boy, I can lower the quality of my items now... Why anyone would want to do that.

Im glad. When gathering lower mats that I dont need to be HQ to craft id rather just make them all NQ and save on slots.

[Classikmage]

Traits
50 Enhanced Stealth IV
53 Cloudfishing
53 Enhanced Stealth V
55 Gulleye IV
55 Hellfishing
56 Enhanced Stealth VI
58 Aetherfishing
60 Gulleye V

New types of "specialty" fishing, lol.

[Deathbringer]

Gear from the following trials and duties will now be accepted for expert delivery missions.
Soldiery Gear / Poetics Gear / The Second Coil of Bahamut / The Final Coil of Bahamut / The World of Darkness / The Whorleater (Extreme) / The Striking Tree (Extreme) / Akh Afah Amphitheatre (Extreme)

FUCKING YES

[Sho]

Determination IV legit dropped from 600k to 200k after patch notes on my server, lol.

[Deathbringer]

Well shit- all the Fieldcraft 3s are damn near gone

[Edelweiss]

Determination IV legit dropped from 600k to 200k after patch notes on my server, lol.

There is a ton of anger towards this nerf, i've never seen so many people this mad in my endgame LSes.

Meanwhile, casual shitters are praising the Sun for furnishings.

[Fievel]

Ya'll mother fuckers always find a reason to be mad

[Deader2818]

There is a ton of anger towards this nerf, i've never seen so many people this mad in my endgame LSes.

Meanwhile, casual shitters are praising the Sun for furnishings.

Wait, only casual players can enjoy housing?

[Gulkeeva]

Ya'll mother fuckers always find a reason to be mad

The game is going to be mostly miqo'te females and au ra females... best expansion ever

also, DX11 awww yes finally after so many.. delays... now where's my DX12 >.>

[Sho]

Ya'll mother fuckers always find a reason to be mad

XD

[Seravi Edalborez]

I would say sucks for people who put det on their relics (toot toot), but relics won't matter so I don't think anyone should care.

[Edelweiss]

Wait, only casual players can enjoy housing?

You're reading way too much into it. But generally casual players probably don't care about min-maxing or stat weights, hence the contempt in my post.

[Carth]

So why the determination nerf anyway? Was it unbalanced? I mean, the buff to Critical would've evened it out I feel.

[Seravi Edalborez]

The effect is only nerfed on AAs so I feel it's just an incentive to not make Det an autopick in the NA community (as opposed to, I dunno, making Speed buff autoattacks in some way too).

Really I don't think the secondary stat meta will change significantly (citation needed). The most pressing issue will be finding out how good the new Speed is now.

[Lokus]

DET was pretty strong and was basically the go-to stat for everything. They also brought back Crit Attack Power from 1.0 and just combined it with CRT.

Also, Skill and Spell Speed materia started selling like hot cakes on my server a couple mins after Patch Notes went up lol.

[octopus]

I'm glad I went with crit/acc for my zeta lol (scholar)

[Edelweiss]

So why the determination nerf anyway? Was it unbalanced? I mean, the buff to Critical would've evened it out I feel.

That's what is utterly mystifying. If the devs felt it to be unbalanced, then just reduce the amount of it on gear. Then again, was it so bad that auto-attacks weren't utter dog shit? They do comprise a decent amount of your damage output.

The option(s) they went with just seem to make it like Critical Hit Rate will be the new Determination, and that'll be on the nerfing block next. It seems really dumb on their part to do all this when DET and CHR weren't really that far apart in terms of their weight per point (for most jobs). To top it off, they basically went and created the same issue that might have motivated this heavy-handed nerf to Determination..

[Neon_Sea]

I think it is just their way of nerfing down melee damage to counteract the sps/sks buff. Im sure in an ideal world they do not want the disparity in dps between monk and smn to be as wide as it was in 2.xx

[Gokulo]

Was surprised to see lv 50 job quests. I guess that's where I'll start instead of MSQ.