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  1. #321
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    How much are you guys parsing in A1S and A2S this week with our brand new Esoterics weapon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurodar View Post
    How much are you guys parsing in A1S and A2S this week with our brand new Esoterics weapon?
    Im pretty sure without trying u can get 650+ Easy now..

    i put a little more effort into this week and managed to get 823 total dps with eso weapon
    On dummies, i was able to consistently pull 1080-1100 for 3 minutes
    http://puu.sh/jpo4c/0c6b45fe75.jpg

  3. #323
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    I did 860 in A3Savage this week (no ninja for TA :<) with weapon anyone else have any base points for comparison?


    Last week I did 760 but I don't think the weapon caused a 100 DPS increase most likely 50-60, and I just optimized better this week.

  4. #324
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    My SA1 this week got ruined and it was crap. I had to stop attacking about 15 seconds or so before the third jump, then right as I was about to get to go again, they jumped at 1% -_-

    My dps plummeted.

  5. #325
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlazed View Post
    On dummies, i was able to consistently pull 1080-1100 for 3 minutes
    Would you mind screenshot your gears? Also, is that dummy parse including food/pots/pt buff?

  6. #326
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    Tuesday I did a run to test weapon with 2 friends of mine, one of them beeing war, the war got 1134 dps overall on a3 normal. He have meld acc and typical i190 + i180 ring.

    Sadly I didnt save the parse.

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    I'm calling bullshit on that, because the adds phase just destroys dps, there is nothing to aoe, and phase transitions just have you sit there doing nothing. If you're going to post ridiculous shit, post the parse with it or don't post at all.

  8. #328
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    Yeah you're actually right, my bad, this was without the add phase.

  9. #329
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    The eso axe is a noticeable boost to damage. OTing A1 I managed to hit 1150 dps at the split and maintain 950 dps by the first jump.

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    Is there a SS number I should aim for? right now I can fit 3 FCs within a berserk with about half to 3/4 GCD left, so I can't fit fracture, is it worth sacrificing other stats to get more SS to get fracture in during berserk?

  11. #331
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarian View Post
    Is there a SS number I should aim for? right now I can fit 3 FCs within a berserk with about half to 3/4 GCD left, so I can't fit fracture, is it worth sacrificing other stats to get more SS to get fracture in during berserk?

    I don't know the exact number since the new SS tiers, but you always want to bare minimum to hit 9 GCDs in your berserks consistently. This will vary based on your lag as well. If you have a better ping you generally can execute 9 GCDS more consistently with less SS. Any SS past that isn't going to be as much as a gain of Crit or Det, but since WARs never run out of TP anymore it's never going to be a detriment like it was in the past. Just keep in mind that even if you sacrifice crit and det for a STR gain that's always going to be ideal with how ridiculously low secondary stats matter currently relative to primary. (with the exception of lowering your SS to a point where you can no longer execute a 9 GCD berserk)

  12. #332
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaope View Post
    Would you mind screenshot your gears? Also, is that dummy parse including food/pots/pt buff?
    Yea sure bro, Everything is 190 Slaying except BODY AND 1 RING. BOTH are i180.

    The Parse in my last post was 1 strength pot, no food, no party buffs.
    http://puu.sh/jrMtZ/7b1462da02.jpg

  13. #333
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    The parse in your last post was A1S. I would hope you had food and party bonus.

  14. #334
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    Wow, you get away with all slaying and that little VIT? That's about the same HP as my PLD (4/5 melded accessories, 1 slaying)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    Wow, you get away with all slaying and that little VIT? That's about the same HP as my PLD (4/5 melded accessories, 1 slaying)
    Well I guess he can get away with it when healers are not really doing dps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    Wow, you get away with all slaying and that little VIT? That's about the same HP as my PLD (4/5 melded accessories, 1 slaying)
    It's a pretty stupid approach, the STR loss going to multiple crafted pieces is minor and you gain a significant amount of VIT. The primary benefit being, that it's safer to stay in Deliverance more since your base HP is higher.

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    has anyone come up with a comfort HP benchmark they can reach with 210 left side before they start swapping crafted to slaying accessories?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisada View Post
    has anyone come up with a comfort HP benchmark they can reach with 210 left side before they start swapping crafted to slaying accessories?
    800ish VIT is still pretty safe for A1S (just make sure you switch into defiance for IB and veng for tank buster with path up and have equilibrium ready after the hit asap)
    845ish VIT (can probably get away with less) is pretty safe for A3S


    A2S I would use pentamelds any day over STR accessories, double idol doll cleaves is too anal clenching and the benefit of the strength doesn't outweigh the cost imo. (although we solo heal it so /shrug)

    I haven't ran into any real issues with 850ish VIT for A4S yet.

  19. #339
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dammerung View Post
    It's a pretty stupid approach, the STR loss going to multiple crafted pieces is minor and you gain a significant amount of VIT. The primary benefit being, that it's safer to stay in Deliverance more since your base HP is higher.
    The infamous Ellatrix Reatori :D, Glad to see your still playing and thriving.

    @Jem... during Progression i Wore vitality accessories and once i became optimized with the fight, i switched to full slaying because quite simply... the fight is not that hard. I do cheese the fight for more DPS by holmgang'ing the 1st and 3rd Tank busters to maximize deliverance up-time. Using Cool downs before Tank busters to get full value from mitigating cleaves (Royal Fount)

    Optimization Tip: Any cooldown less than 2 minutes (Thrill of battle)/(Vengence)/(Foresight).. that's more than 15 buff timer popped while "Hydrothermal Missle" is going out will still be up for the Tank-buster following the cleave. Check images Below: Your Vengeance will have 1-2 seconds left if you pop it at the end of "Hydrothermal missle".... Getting Cleave/Auto attack/Aoe mitigation before tankbuster.... and they will both be back up for the next tank buster since they are 2 minutes apart. (Check images below)
    http://puu.sh/js0IB/b529b7087e.jpg

    This is extreme level optimization... but i am all for aggressive heavy war DPS using every available tool. As Bokchoy Mcmuffin would say "Push Your limits" I know Ellatrix can attest to that.
    http://puu.sh/js0AK/3a9dd4019f.jpg

    That is why i am able to survive in full slaying because i have optimized myself to the extreme to where 2-4k vitality i can trade off for more dmg..... and my healers are not trash.... playing this way is a combination of how good your healers are and how you use your class and how well you can optimize your fights.

    Stupid approach? hell fucking yea if your not good or want more breathing room for your healers or simply dont care about pushing every fuck bit of dps out of your class.. but i can keep myself alive better than some tanks in full time defiance.

    Edit: i actually agree'd with Ellatrix for the first time since our big fight... whoa

    @ Ramset.... my bad i thought you meant the Dummy Parse... on the actual A1S Fight, yes i was using food and party bonus my bad.


    Edit: I do have crafted accessorries x5 on standby... for progression and A2 (Those doll's Kaleidsahit hits hard as FUCK (without prebuffing) so i use 3 of them on that fight.

    This week AS2 i ended up finishing at 1124 DPS.. pretty sure 20k minimum for last wave is needed for last phase and sometimes it even hurts at that.
    http://puu.sh/jr0R8/9da8f2bb2d.png

  20. #340
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    Ok cool, it's probably because PLD cooldowns are shit for that fight and our healers are still adjusting but I know if I switched to full slaying I'd get my shit pushed in continuously and I generally play as aggressively as possible on tank (Namely because I'm a DPS at heart and I hate doing shitty DPS on any job)

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