Ravana Extreme

[Judai]

So pugs reacting to whether or not the specific people you told to do something, happens to have prey is easier then 2 of the 3 people who have nothing on them at all? You are still asking people to react, you are just doing it in a bad way.

1. Specify two people to grab prey, buff them, pray to god they don't have prey and someone else has to jump in cause nobody in pugs is capable of reacting, which is why you specified people to do it but now they can't and you have to work on the fly(fuck it, it's over, just wipe). Also pray they don't get purple and if they did your healers buffed them properly. Pray NOBODY died to swift, cause then shit is getting fucked up.

2. Have 2 of the 3 people who have literally nothing else hitting them in this set, run and pick up prey off the two people, hell two people can run to one side to pick it up cause they still won't die. Pray 2 of the 3 people do this properly. Don't even have to worry about shielding them or anyone.

None of this is gonna matter in a month anyways, when everyone is over geared and has 15k hp and can eat everything on any job.

[LinktheDeme]

what are you even talking about at this point, get off your high horse either that or by your explanation you seem to be confused because I am not implying for one target to be shielded and eat double prey vulns. (unless your tanks are both palys and you want to cheese it with hallowed)

Scenario 1
-Two ranged would be permanent with the job of taking the prey off with one going to A and one going to C and if they start with the prey than that's even easier. The only thing they would have to pay attention to is which ranged is grabbing it off so they don't waste time trying to grab the same one but there is so much time in this part.
-Then the two people set to grab the prays would be the tanks regardless if they have purple they can live it theres no reacting. (This would be after the first two prey targets get vuln debuff)



The main downside of scenario 1 is people not paying attention and constantly passing prey back and forth in a clusterfuck but that's a detriment in scenario 2. If I'm missing a detriment of this that doesn't apply to scenario 2 as well then by all means please enlighten me

There is literally next to no on the fly decision process

Scenario 2 has more ways it can fuck up just as easy and requires on the fly thinking and paying attention.


-All three people sitting on their asses expecting someone else to do it
-All three people running to A or C
-Two people running to A or C that don't have it then both of them running back because they see the other person and then it becomes a cluster fuck of who goes and who doesn't unless a priority system is made. Or both of them just running and committing and eating the damage (If this happens it's probably the ideal solution because like you said they won't die)
edit: -People not paying attention and not realizing they don't have the purple things until too long has passed. (overlaps with the result of the first point but a different mindset)


For scenario 2 to be viable you need to have a marking system similar to ramuh 1-5 if you do that you would be able to get away with it but you need a counting system that exceeds 5 for the worse case scenario. The main downside to scenario 1 is that is doesn't work in a solo tank scenario.

[Arthars]

its a fucking primal

do watever u need to do and clr, and thats it

hell during 2nd coil, people have 101 tactics placing meteors, some even shape the meteors like a fucking vagina and no one was butthurt, why u guys argueing over something that dont fucking matter >.>

if you can get to that phase, screw up purple/prey, you can still have 2-3 dead peeps, rez and still meet the dps check. so WHO CARES?!6

[Ratatapa]

its a fucking primal

do watever u need to do and clr, and thats it

hell during 2nd coil, people have 101 tactics placing meteors, some even shape the meteors like a fucking vagina and no one was butthurt, why u guys argueing over something that dont fucking matter >.>

if you can get to that phase, screw up purple/prey, you can still have 2-3 dead peeps, rez and still meet the dps check. so WHO CARES?!6

Mario kart or bust


( lol lag)

[Ramset]

It's pretty clear that the intention of the mechanic is for the players who don't get targeted with either mechanic should pick up the Prey. What's there to argue here?

If you're bad enough to not understand the mechanic then you shouldn't be doing the fight away.

[Ratatapa]

I understand the idea of buffing tanks so they could take double prey but for those doing with pugs.

Pugs are already bad, why make them stress more "Omg it's 2 tank buff them, oh nvm its normal jobs remember to take prey".

Just do 1 strategy and keep with it....

[Ramset]

My point is -- learn the right way to do the fight. Don't build hand holding onto the strategy just to accommodate someone who can't pay attention.

Edit: Especially when it invites more risk.

[Kaisha]

[EDIT] I'm overthinking this.

So final lib is preys go out, 15s to finish castbar, he does aoe lanes to both preys as castbar ends, purples go out, 5s later the follow-up attack + purples exploding occur.

He snapshots the prey location from the first dash to them and does circle aoes on that spot as the follow-up?

[solracht]

does circle aoes on that spot as the follow-up?

The follow-up is another dash, it's not a circle AOE. Ravana reappears wherever the first dash ended and dashes towards the Prey target.

[Yugl]

As Solracht said, it's a second charge, Here is what it will look like if you place the preys in the suggested spots:



X = Where the prey is standing when he charges
Dotted line = Shows where he is charging to/from

[Ratatapa]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...8c6e83dc31c3c9

- An issue in “Thok ast Thok (Extreme)” wherein Ravana’s use of “Chandrahas” breaks more than five of the walls around the outer field.

ah well :O

[Seravi Edalborez]

Yeah we noticed that last night. However it never really killed us.

Getting him down to 39% before Chandrahas with standard 2tank setup (WAR PLD NIN SMN BLM BRD WHM SCH), and we still have room to improve with gear/party setup.

[Ramset]

Yeah we noticed that last night. However it never really killed us.

Getting him down to 39% before Chandrahas with standard 2tank setup (WAR PLD NIN SMN BLM BRD WHM SCH), and we still have room to improve with gear/party setup.

Bro stop hating on my low ilvl.

[Avarice]

This too-many-walls breaking bug is literally the most annoying fucking thing. We play the roulette every time we pull and more often than not, we're left with nothing.

[Cairthenn]

I still prefer the unmarked grabbing prey method for Final Liberation, but if you are having trouble with your PUGs:

Have two (non tank) people take the prey before the first hit goes out. When it goes out, the tanks can take the second prey and use a standard CD and survive with the single hit even if they get a liberation circle.

[Judai]

So Brandel noticed something during his RavaExs runs and I watched several of our videos.

on Swift Liberation, it seems there are two combinations for Swords/Purple markers;

All DPS get Swords, then Healers/Tanks get purple.
or
Healers/Tanks get Swords, then all DPS get purple markers.

You guys can watch your vids/pay attention and confirm but it happened exactly like this in all 5 videos I watched. Obviously, things will get funky if ppl are dead or you run solo tank/solo heal/both.

[Dammerung]

The best strategy for Final Liberation is to not have Final Liberation.

[Kaixin]

The best strategy for Final Liberation is to not have Final Liberation.

Finally, some sense.

[Cairthenn]

The discussion was about a PUG strategy/why initial strategy was dumb, though.

The DPS and non-DPS swift shouldn't matter much since you can fit 3 circles into a single quadrant, but I suppose if you felt like it, just pair a DPS to a non-DPS and make them to go the quadrant of their sword #.

[Yugl]

The best strategy for Final Liberation is to not have Final Liberation.

Finally, some sense.

Oh you!