Fenrir, Diabolos, and Carbuncle HTB

[BerenTebogo]

Fenrir:
Requires clearing Fenrir normally for access

Title: Lupine Liquidator

Drops:
Ma'iitsoh Haube http://www.ffxiah.com/item/25600/maiitsoh-haube
Capitoline Strap http://www.ffxiah.com/item/21412/capitoline-strap
Lupine Cape: http://www.ffxiah.com/item/27608/lupine-cape
Medeina Kilij http://www.ffxiah.com/item/20707/medeina-kiliji
Vrikodara Jupon http://www.ffxiah.com/item/26969/vrikodara-jupon

For D and VD his Astral Flow move hurts, but in a weird way? In D both BST were 1 shotted, but both GEO took < 400 damage. My mule didn't have shell and still took <400 damage. Maybe in some way proportional to damage done? I don't know, maybe just resist. For VD we use Fend and Attune with Geo Vex and Geo Frailty to mitigate the AoEs. Still took 1k damage from some AoE with fend and vex on, so there's that.

Base add effect is about 550~. Eclipse bit can hurt, ~1800 damage in ready gear (~-30% DT).

!! proc frequency definitely goes up with difficulty of the fight. In N we saw maybe 2 procs total, in VD the fight was much more similar to older avatar HTB with frequent white !! on ready moves.


Diabolos:
Requires clearing Diabolos normally for access

Darkside Earring http://www.ffxiah.com/item/27531/darkside-earring
Pernicious Ring http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10767/pernicious-ring
Shuhansadamune http://www.ffxiah.com/item/20982/shuhansadamune
Loageth Cuffs http://www.ffxiah.com/item/27105/loagaeth-cuffs
Chozoron Coselete http://www.ffxiah.com/item/26971/chozoron-coselete

Fight: Diabolos D

Nightmare is not countered by poison pots. Hate seems to either reset with every attack, or has a similar mechanic to that chigoe ZNM. Something, but basically pets never had hate for the most part. I recommend PLD, but even then I'm not really sure how the hate works so I can't say that would make it better? We decided to just stack up all on the same panel, keep indi-regen / attune up, geo-vex and frailty, we also brought a SCH for AoE Regen. With vex/attune his add effect was down to like 10 damage, but otherwise he hit hard as fuck, 300+ to mages with AE of 150-300. There were times he killed luopans and then did nightmare so damage during nightmare got high. Fight is annoying as fuck, really hope nothing really good drops here.

Panels didn't ever drop, so that mechanic is gone. Kinda sad about that.

Carbuncle:
Requires clearing Waking The Beast for access.

Engraved Belt http://www.ffxiah.com/item/28414/engraved-belt
Lapidary Tunic http://www.ffxiah.com/item/26970/lapidary-tunic
Marquetry Staff http://www.ffxiah.com/item/21155/marquetry-staff
Satlada Necklace http://www.ffxiah.com/item/27516/satlada-necklace
Diamantaire Sollerets http://www.ffxiah.com/item/27466/diamantaire-sollerets

I did 3 as pld+trusts on normal dropping the neck and a thf friend joined for 3 more that gave us feet/body. Think someone already posted about healing ruby II curing for 20kish but its quite easy to lock it with provoke since its so infrequent. Pretty snoozefest fight for normal but id imagine a geo would help for mdb on higher difficulties.

[Mertron]

Did them on E on RUN to gauge the fights, carby and fenrir were easy, died to diabolos (nightmare). Gonna grab 30 merits rq and do carb and fen on N.

[BerenTebogo]

Grabbed another BST and an Idris GEO and made some quick gearsets. Gonna give D a shot right now for Fenrir.

[Tile]

Carby is easier than the Quest was, only have to fight 1 carby, and no other avatars show up LAME.

[Sechs]

Nobody got any drop at all so far?

[BerenTebogo]

Will update with info soon but we're gonna try VD first.

Spoiler: show

Helm is dumb

[Sechs]

Lame.
Does Diabolos still have the falling platforms with Diremites underneath?

[BerenTebogo]

Will compile info shortly

Spoiler: show

Title for VD: Lupine Liquidator

[BerenTebogo]

Diabolos N:

Hate is 110% fucked. I have no idea what the shit happened. Poison fruit didn't wake me or my mule from sleep, that was cute. No amount of damage done to diabolos could keep hate on pets. It was fucking EVERYWHERE.

Didn't get to floor dropping out. I have no idea what just happened.

[BerenTebogo]

Diabolos N:

Spoiler: show

Will update info after D.

Holy fucking shit.

Spoiler: show

VD is a big nope without a PLD. Nope, nope, nope.

[Sechs]

Might be okayish for debuffs on BRD.
I'm currently using Gwati Earring + Enchanter's Earring +1.

Considering that:
1) Roughly 1 CHR = 1 Macc = 1 Sing
2) Roughly 1 Sing = 3 Wind/String

That earring should be corresponding to ~9-10 total macc, so probably slightly better than Gwati Earring for debuffs.
It's such a marginal increase I'd hardly call it worth. Doubt I'll bother with it because of the inventory+1 and my notorious inventory woes. (I use Gwati on other jobs, this would be BRD-onry)

[BerenTebogo]

Also the fight sucks gigantic donkey balls without a PLD, don't know about with PLD, but yeah. Not eager to do anything but clear it on VD tonight and then never go back.

Edit: Does anyone know which bard NPC will give you HTB titles? I want fenrir one back.

[Tachi]

There are two monsters that have always ignored Pet Hate mechanics : Absolute Virtue and Diabolos Prime. This new version of Diabolos Prime could work the same way.

[Tile]

idk about the HTB titles but Burute-sorute in windy walls has the old titles for fenrir and diabolos, maybe he has the new ones

[BerenTebogo]

idk about the HTB titles but Burute-sorute in windy walls has the old titles for fenrir and diabolos, maybe he has the new ones

He did, thanks. Lupine Liquidator is prob. one of my new favorite titles. All of the avatar VD titles are pretty good actually.

[Tile]

For carby fight Holy mist is changed to AoE, Healing ruby was doing 15k+ each time, and had a few searing lights. holy mist seemed to do 1/3 to 1/2 the dmg of Searing light. I fought solo on Easy as pld since normal would have been too much seeing how carby absorbs light so Enlight II for acc is out of the question. trusts dispelled all the buffs easy enough.

sucks that you need brd or Run for resist light, never added a Barlightra

[hopefulki]

I guess it's finally time to do Waking the Beast

[Tile]

I guess it's finally time to do Waking the Beast

I enjoyed doing it with my bro before SoA was a great quest. I'm bummed out the new carby fight isn't the same as the Waking the beast quest. would have made for a very fun fight.

[BerenTebogo]

2 more Fenrir VD, strap and helmet again. Super lame.

[Martel]

For carby fight Holy mist is changed to AoE, Healing ruby was doing 15k+ each time, and had a few searing lights. holy mist seemed to do 1/3 to 1/2 the dmg of Searing light. I fought solo on Easy as pld since normal would have been too much seeing how carby absorbs light so Enlight II for acc is out of the question. trusts dispelled all the buffs easy enough.

sucks that you need brd or Run for resist light, never added a Barlightra

Go PLD/RUN, and use Tenebrae runes. Runes have higher priority than Enlight II, but you still get the acc+. And since the Enlight dmg never procs, the potency never degrades. Since you'll be dealing rune en-dmg rather than Enlight dmg, you won't cure carby.