Thread: Patch 3.01 Notes    

Originally Posted by Silenka

Whole thread (well BG in general) is full of people who take the game way too seriously. But I know that and that's why I come here. People can tell me to get out for enjoying casual/fanservice aspects of the game all they want, that's what I expect when I post here, because BG is a place where raid content and gameplay mechanics are put first (also I love the abuse or something). If I wanted to talk to people who are in love with casual content and have no criticisms of the game whatsoever I'd go live on OF (but then my brain would implode from stupid).

The criticisms do get a bit heavy here - not that they're not legitimate, of course, but the trend leans heavily toward criticizing SE for focusing more on developing casual content like housing/sidequests/glamour and less on serious things that need to be addressed about the core of the gameplay. It does sometimes feel like many posters here don't enjoy the game as a whole AT ALL and completely dismiss anything that isn't "hardcore content", but again that's kind of expected here. There are different things that cause someone to have fun playing a MMO. For me, I'm having fun if I'm working towards a goal, no matter how causal or hardcore the content might be. For others, the easier it is the more boring it is.

I'm not surprised anymore if someone here says this is the worst MMO, and I'm not surprised if someone says it's the best. It's beautiful and flawed and needs a lot of work from a company that has historically been terrible at being in touch with its playerbase. But I knew that coming in and you probably did too. Yes I think the story is great. Yes I think the story has holes in it. Yes I think it's awesome the NPCs are memorable. Yes I wonder why anyone cares about Miqote butt sliders. You can go around and around with this stuff and it'll be different for everyone but the point is SE made a game and we're all playing it and maybe some of us will even enjoy it, no matter what aspect of it we enjoy and what aspect we come here to complain about.

I love posts like this. I don't think I've actually posted anything on BG for years now, but FFXIV brought me back here a while ago. Ultimately... BG is just a community of very intelligent people. But the one thing that comes with the intelligence and passion that this place has for final fantasy MMO's is that it gets extremely argumentative and hostile. It's always been that way for some reason, and I guess it always will be. I used to think that maybe I was a few years older than people here, so I didn't fit in... but now I realize that it's mostly because I never really enjoyed or found a whole lot of success with the hostility that breeds here. It's part of what makes this a unique community, and I guess you take the good with the bad. In reality, other places are incredibly argumentative and shitty to each other too, so maybe it's just that BG is better at everything they do... which includes telling other people off.

Thanks for being you, BG. I still love reading this stuff, and I don't know if I'd have such thick skin when it comes to assholes on the internet if you hadn't been such a bastard sometimes!

I guess someone should tell the 2.0 beastmen to take a hike.

The Gnath

Spoiler: show

were kind of just in your way in MSQ and you made a pit stop at the good Gnath's base. I mean that's really it, you had to knock them out to get to gobbieland where all the real storymeat and personalities are. If they spent too much time on Gnath they wouldn't have been able to spend as much on the gobs and that's where our new home base is located so guess it made more sense to focus the most on the gobs (I feel like we could have had more annoying gob sidequests and not as many moogle ones though).

I also bother to read all the text, or most of it anyway. Sometimes I even talk to random NPCs, some of them say some interesting shit.

Originally Posted by Destinye

Nope. I read everything. Still doesn't excuse them for making it part of the main scenario. Side quests and fetch quests are amazing OUTSIDE of the main story..not forcing me to do it.

almost all of them in 3.0 are outside the story, wtf you talking about.

Originally Posted by layoneil

almost all of them in 3.0 are outside the story, wtf you talking about.

I mean when you're just talking to talk shit, making sense really isn't necessary.

I hate that you are sometimes forced to skip lore. Like in the dungeons that had like journal / books for you to read but of course nobody will give you time to read them! I try backtrack at the end of the dungeon to read them all but you only get 5 mins before it boots you.

I wish they did more dungeons like that, the creepy healer who was so bad her tank perma-died was a great example of what they can do with otherwise non-important side characters.

I try to read all the sidequests. Really the issue with 3.0 sidequests is that there's so many and the way content is gated at level cap encourages you to bumrush to 60 as quickly as possible so naturally everyone skips everything in their rush.

The mid-dungeon lore thing complicates things for me too. The stuff in the last few books in the Library is, uh, not to be missed. The best solution I've found is to just tag them all while going by without reading so as not to fall behind, then afterwards I pick the text up out of my event log. (Then I forget to do that last step and have to repeat the process several times in Fractal...)

Once the boss is dead you can just go back and read them if you want.

Or just google them. I know it's not ideal but I understand why groups don't want to wait each time because someone is doing something not required to clear the dungeon.