If your dps is short, you can always try to push tornado add phase super fast to gain ~ 20 seconds to the last phase. I wouldn't recommend this however
If your dps is short, you can always try to push tornado add phase super fast to gain ~ 20 seconds to the last phase. I wouldn't recommend this however
We pass the debuff so that I can DPS the entire time during the hand phase (SCH). I bane dots twice during that phase, but once is right before Equal Concentration goes out. I also lay down Shadowflare. After that I spam Broil on the higher HP hand.
We used to save CDs for it, but obviously we don't anymore. The biggest thing with that mechanic is anticipating it not re-acting to it. If you react slow and still beat the fuck out of the old one for even 3-4 seconds then you may have just lost. If all DPS are looking to switch immediately then it's a lot less likely you'll fail.
They make it harder only if one of the DPS doesn't switch fast enough. That was the only time we failed once I started doing it. The idea is that not only do my dots contribute to the hand check, but since it's on both it's lowering the overall HP of the boss faster to help with the enrage at the end of the fight.
They don't contribute to the hand check tho, you're lowering both of their HP at a time when the healed hands needs to be brought down to the giving hand's health.
DoTing both doesn't necessarily make it more difficult, but doing equal damage to both hands essentially the same as doing nothing in regards to that DPS check.
You said you Bane'd them right before Equal Concentration went out, I'm confused.
Cast new set of dots as hands are moving in > hands come together > bane > debuffs go out > Fey Wind+Shadow Flare > Equal Concentration happens (Dots have around ~12s on Bio II - IE just about to fall) > Only repply correct hand's dots/spam Broil
Maybe my language was confusing. It's before EC, just not literally before.
Theoretically no, but realistically it does. It shouldn't be enough to matter THAT much, however it can at times if your burst DPS is not so hot.
Reason why realistically it does is if you are at (arbitrary numbers for example purposes only the decimal place is significant) 39.0 or 39.1 and that dot ticks it down to 38.9 that's a whole additional percent that you now have to DPS down on the other hand because of a slight dot tick. The outgoing damage isn't always a 1:1 ratio. Again though it shouldn't matter enough to consistently happen but it can.
Wait until you almost push the damn thing in the opposite direction.
Well there is a specific HP value between the two that is the threshold ( I don't know it without looking at my ACT files ). It's just easier to say it is 4.0% lol. Unfortunately, unless you use ACT you're not going to be able to tell to the tenth decimal or exact HP value difference.
Edit: just noticed the WHM cross classed ruin and used it to spam lol
And Elysium.
Edit: And some other JP group.
Edit again: Elysium is also the only group who actually passes Nisi around and doesn't just brute-force it.
wtf, that is the most crude win. There has to be a better way to do it o.O
Edit: ok nm watched Elysium do it more refined.
Either way, freaking amazing that fight looks so punishing.
Man......... Every group that's cleared it sac'd Royal Pentacle in some way rather than dealing with mechanics. Elysium was the only group that actually juggled it all through the last phase, but still just sac'd for the third set. SE has some shit on their hands. Hope they get it together or figure out what to do before 3.2.
lucrezia's tactic is greatly frowned upon in the JP community now
mainly because they are not handling the gimmick properly and bruteforcing
not taking it away from them tho, but i guess killing is all it matters
also for sacing the last set, its totally understandable because winning is already at hand
if you can safe MP and DPS for that last few % than everyone doing mechanic and heal, why not choose the former?
Just curious, did JP community feel the same about "ignore gimmick" methods of old coil stuff?
-T2 enrage
-T5 divebomb pit (was there another universally understood way to fucking do this)
-T6 LoS method
-T7 stacking Renauds
-T9 ... does mario kart meteors count?
-Ifrit EX LoSing Inferno Howl
-Ramuh EX, tanking with Titan-Egi (for while it lasted) or solo tanking.
More I'm probably forgetting, but I'm curious what the perception of bruteforcing or ignoring mechanics is.