Diabolos fight help...

[Ninjadik]

My static has 4 people with blm @ 40.

Question is would BLMx4, WHM, BRD work for this BC?

Only reason I can think of it not working is if Diabolos has a ton of HP and would not be able to be killed before he killed us.

Could BRD sleep it?

If anyone could help, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

[divisortheory]

Probably would not work. The fight isn't even that hard, why can't you just go in and actually fight it?

[Chumm]

1x Nightmare = {death}
Icarus Wing > Brainshaker to stun would be hilarious though.

[Ninjadik]

Mage/Bst heavy static....

only melee is me the ninjer, no stun's unless i equip sword and us flat blade.

Just trying to come up with a strategy and viewing options according to jobs that we have.

[Vecan]

I doubt it. He'll do that nightmare move and sleep you all and then kill you one by one because he hits pretty hard (hit me around 120+ on my nin when shadows went down). BRD is a leech in this fight (and in most pre 60 cap cop missions imo), I don't think he can be slept with lullaby.

[Chumm]

Axe has a stun WS right? BST should work nicely, and yeah you should main sword for stun WS. DRK definitely not needed for stun, WS work just fine.

WHM 2xBLM NIN 2xBST would work I think, if you have that kind of setup available.

[Ninjadik]

I do have that setup actually.

Maybe I should take a BST out and put RDM in for dispel?

[divisortheory]

He doesn't really use any abilities that need to be dispelled if I remember correctly.

It isn't that hard to get to the BC. Just go in there and try it with a setup, see what works and what doesn't.

[Vecan]

The rdm in place of a bst would be better. Your whm will be spamming erase since he does a killer bio attack, the extra healing / nukes for the win.

[Okan]

His Bio hurts and it will NOT wake you from his sleep. I think his Bio is like 20hp? I really recommend finding a DRK.

[Ninjadik]

I will try the setup w/o drk, if we cant win than i'll find me a drk somewhere. Thanks for all the help and suggestions

[Chumm]

I will try the setup w/o drk, if we cant win than i'll find me a drk somewhere. Thanks for all the help and suggestions

My group did WAR SAM PLD up front (I think) and we only used stun WS. He tried nightmare 3 times, we stunned all. Just have everyone ready. In our case SAM could meditate to be first in the stun order, you may want 1 person to use a wing @ start to be first stun while the others build TP.

No sniper rings too, - Dark Defense is bad if you get hit, esp with no PLD tank to cure sleepers. Like Okan said, you stay slept with Bio on, poison pots don't help either.

[nivlakian]

He doesn't really use any abilities that need to be dispelled if I remember correctly.

I'm pretty sure he does use an ability where the text log says "gains the effect of phalanx". You can win without it being dispelled though, but I'm not sure how much -dmg it is.

[divisortheory]

Also, if you position him right, your mages won't get hit by Nightmare anyway, and you can just Cure / Erase everyone to wake them up and get them back to normal. With a Stun WS, it's really not that bad of a fight. 3/4 attemps at most.

[Toreador]

That fight takes a lot of skill, you need either really smart people that know how to Stun WS (Atleast 3 ppl) or a Dark Knight, atleast 1 NIN I won with 2.
I would go in with two White Mages this time... Erase FTW on this fight. Its
-NOT- a damage fest, there is no way you could even attempt to try to Manaburn this guy. Its a fight of attrition. Mix your damage dealers, I was a Warrior on that fight, worked well for Smash Axe. I also had a SMN, Astral flow did decent damage, but was not the key to the win, also had a Red Mage - Very Helpful, the DoTs and other Enfeebles help a lot... The group I won with is - NIN NIN WAR RDM SMN WHM... The Ideal group though, in my Opinion is NIN NIN DRK RDM WHM WHM .... -.-; You need RDM for dispel on his Phalanx

[Okan]

Manaburn Ouryu all you want (COP mission, not the Cloud Evoker one). 6 Fire IIs would be laughed at by Diabolos.

[Ninjadik]

ouryu can be mana burned?

[Razz]

The mission BC yes, you can leech off BLMs.

[Ninjadik]

how many blm's would u say we needed at least... lol

only 2 blm over 50 ><;

[Russta]

I won with PLD, RNG, RNG, SMN, WHM, RDM on our test run in six minutes using no Stun weapon skills at all. I think Diabolos is a complete joke :/