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  1. #11361
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    500's only really there for posterity since you need useless crap like Mavi scarf and Mirage charuqs +2 to get it. Max blue magic skill atm is 505. (In salvage only: Mirage Keffiyeh +2, mavi tathlum, mavi scarf, magus jubbah +1, khepri wristbands, antica ring, zaffre cape, ksi sash, mavi tayt +2, mirage charuqs +2
    Blood Greaves are +5 skill.


  2. #11362
    Impossiblu
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    Would still leave you 1 short of 505 outside of salvage. :\ But that does make max 507, woohoo.

  3. #11363
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    Solly guys, I remember we talked about this before, but I forget exactly how monster correlation affects BLU spells.

    Anyway, as an alchemist I get to look at a lot of recipes for mediocre DPS Kilijs with killer effects on them. I know that your spells experience a damage bonus when the monster weaknesses/strengths line up properly (an fTP bonus, Monster Correlation?) Does stacking appropriate "Killer" effects make this stronger? Now that we've quantified Killer effects, it might be possible to do some kind of comparison using known values.

  4. #11364
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/103...=1#post4656114

    Uses 256 system though supposedly.

  5. #11365
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Solly guys, I remember we talked about this before, but I forget exactly how monster correlation affects BLU spells.

    Anyway, as an alchemist I get to look at a lot of recipes for mediocre DPS Kilijs with killer effects on them. I know that your spells experience a damage bonus when the monster weaknesses/strengths line up properly (an fTP bonus, Monster Correlation?) Does stacking appropriate "Killer" effects make this stronger? Now that we've quantified Killer effects, it might be possible to do some kind of comparison using known values.
    It doesn't, your only way of increasing correlation effect is through merits and AF hat. It's a pitifully small fTP boost (~.1 per merit or so, I don't remember the value for hat and base values off hand). Generally worth forgetting about.

    edit: didn't see Yugl's post. Just look at that, it's been ages since I've looked at my data for it.

  6. #11366
    CoP Dynamis
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    I've seen a few people in various places saying that stacking Crit Rate and Dmg related things for CDC isn't as worthwhile as Attack and DEX. Could someone explain this in simple terms to me? I've somehow gotten the idea that most of CDC's power comes from critting, though this may be an outdated Abyssea mindset. Does critting CDC hits not increase damage as much as it sounds like it should?

  7. #11367
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    Base critrate should be approaching 50% with just capped dDEX, innate ws bonus, and one of the tonberry items; most of our critrate options from there are also fairly mediocre for CDC so even with a lower base critrate they wouldn't be that awesome. Voidwatch pushes pDIF lower (favoring attack/crit somewhat relative to DEX), but gives you Stalwart's and Champion's Drink so not by much once you account for those. Athos Gloves/Tights combo is the most notable exception since Khepri Kecks don't exist; Tights are generally your best option in capped-hitrate scenarios anyway and Gloves are among the better choices. <insert bitching about wsdmg+3% Khepri augment here>

  8. #11368
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    Athos tights don't exist, you are a liar, sir.

  9. #11369
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    Lv99(No merits): 46
    lv99(8/8 merits): 48
    445: 48
    455: 50
    460: 50
    475: 52
    480: 52
    485: 53
    492: 54
    500: 55

    Floor(0.11x): Serious business.

    Hard Mode: Excel
    Column 1: Skill levels (460-X)
    Column 2: =FLOOR(A1*0.11,1)

    Easy Mode: 464, 473, 482, 491, 500, 510, 519, 528, 537, 546, 555
    Which series is correct?
    Also isn't it
    x= Blue Magic Skill
    [(0.11x)*2]+3

  10. #11370
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    No idea what the first number set is doing 2nd looks correct. What you are citing is the full calculation of base dmg (not counting efflux) while the 2nd guy is just listing at what lvls base dmg changes.

  11. #11371
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    My numbers are incorporating only pieces of gear that matter, i.e., numbers that you'd need. It says it right in the bloody post...

  12. #11372
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    I just looked at his the part he quoted not searching thru for your post lol.

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    Okay, I give up. Why does anyone buy this from me?
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18914/killers-kilij

    I sold 4 of them in the last two days quickly for a mil each. The ingredients probably run me 700k.

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    Lazy players who don't have an almace or magian weapon that want a decent sword. 5% intimidation is neat, could even wear two for 10% and then set the trait and eat the appropriate food for more intimidation fun. /shrug

  15. #11375

    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Okay, I give up. Why does anyone buy this from me?
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18914/killers-kilij

    I sold 4 of them in the last two days quickly for a mil each. The ingredients probably run me 700k.
    I can make you more confused, if you want.

    Some people bought two of those things on servers where Apaisantes are cheaper. Like, half-the-price or less.

    Truly, you have forged a sword of mysteries using a crystal of enigmas and an Adaman Kilij of confounds!

  16. #11376
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    Made from over 7 different kinds of blood, definitely an AIDS blade.

  17. #11377
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    Best thread ever!

  18. #11378
    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Best thread ever!
    EVER.

  19. #11379
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    http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7262/whitewind.jpg

    Do it for fun more than anything and abyssea is kinda past content anyway but BLU could easily outcure any damage in abyssea (beside spikes that one shot ppl maybe) for whole pt if needed

  20. #11380
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    No Light Staff with HP Grip?

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