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  1. #10021
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    Barbed Crescent has some possibility, as it is a ranged attack. Hopefully this means will follow the rules for ranged attacks (lesser effect on level correction and higher fSTR).

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    First impression:
    - Blooddrake did 2500 dmg (abyssea misar on apkallu with CA and VV atma) and drained same amount of hp
    - Counter is around 10% I think
    - Thunder breath is 100% HP
    - Amorphic did around 2100 (abyssea on spider, VV atma, no buffs)
    - Quadrastrike 1800 (abyssea on spider, vv atma, no buffs) CA+efflux outside, cape teriggan, beach bunny did 3650 at 0TP
    - Vapor is interesting, it did 1400 (no mab, MM atma, abyssea misar on spider)

    EP scorpion in abyss altep, no cruor, STR 157 DEX 117, VIT 114, AGI 79, INT 99, MND 93, CHR 69 BLue magic 470
    - QC (for comparison) 2028, 2040, 1800
    a- Quadrastrike 1786, 1371, 1638, 1601, 1625 Added VIT and AGI cruors and VIT atmas no dmg raise. Added DEX atma No visible dmg raise either. Agi atmas the same
    - Amorphic 1288, 1547, 1172, 1550, 1477, 1273 CA 2121 Added VIT and AGI cruors and VIT atmas no dmg raise. Added DEX atma No visible dmg raise either. Agi atmas tthe same
    - Heavy strike 1449
    - Gate oh hades BA: 980 Added VIT and AGI cruors and VIT atmas BA: 1089 Probably not VIT or AGI. Added DEX atma No visible dmg raise either. AGI atmas the same

    Pyrric Bulwars - Pyrric Bulwars has no effect on Atoreis. FAIL lol
    Terror lasted around 20 sec on EP scorpion.
    Vapor spray should be magical but I just did 663 and 873 on the same mob >.> Checking next one 851 and... 181... HP based? I was on red

  3. #10023
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    What are the set points for the new spells?

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    Set points:

    Quadrastrike: 5
    Vapor Spray: 3
    Thunder Breath: 4
    Orcish Counterstance: 5
    Amorphic Spikes: 4
    Wind breath: 2
    Barbed Crescent: 2


    Barbed Crescent is part of DW.



    Pyric Bulwark appears to not be working at all. "Foldypaw's Pyric Bulwark has no effect on Foldypaws"

  5. #10025
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    Pyric plays an odd animation too, that certainly isn't the correct one

    Edit: heh seems that's every spell

    Edit2: it looks like Quadrastrike can crit outside of CA. More testing in progress

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Pyric plays an odd animation too, that certainly isn't the correct one

    Edit: heh seems that's every spell

    Edit2: it looks like Quadrastrike can crit outside of CA. More testing in progress
    Check my post, Im updating it but need to finish soon. It should help you narrow things for more detailed testing.

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    Will fill this in as I get data.

    Quadrastrike
    Deals moderate to severe physical damage and can crit while under the effect of either Chain Affinity or Efflux.

    Vapor Spray
    HP/2. Poison unknown (presumably broken, I couldn't get it to land a single time).

    Thunder Breath
    100% of HP = damage

    Orcish Counterstance
    1 Minute duration, 10% +/- counter (approx., still need to parse it), no reduction of defense and a separate effect from Counterstance.

    Amorphic Spikes
    Deals around the same damage as Quadratic Continuum, if not slightly more, and makes Darkness with CDC.

    Wind Breath
    HP/4

    Barbed Crescent
    Decent damage, decent range(NOT a true ranged attack). Accuracy down effect is -30 accuracy for 2-3 minutes.


    Absolute Terror
    Lasted about 20 seconds. Seems to share the same resistance properties as Jettatura i.e. will not land on any NMs.

    Gates of Hades
    5fTP, 1.0dINT, 20% STR/DEX, the burn effect is 21HP/tic with -45 INT effect to go with it.

    Tourbillion
    Moderate to severe physical damage along with a 33% DEF down effect that lasts for roughly 2-3 minutes.

    Pyric Bulwark
    Broken at the moment, cannot test.

    Bilgestorm
    Low physical damage along with a 25% Attack and DEF down as well as an untested ACC down. Lasts 30-60 seconds.

    Bloodrake
    Moderate to severe physical damage that drains HP to the caster for the same amount as damage done.

  8. #10028
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Will fill this in as I get data.

    Quadrastrike
    Deals rather nice damage and appears to have the ability to crit outside of Chain Affinity. More testing in progress.

    Vapor Spray
    HP/2. Poison unknown.

    Thunder Breath
    100% of HP = damage

    Orcish Counterstance
    1 Minute duration, 10% +/- counter, no reduction of defense.

    Amorphic Spikes


    Wind Breath
    HP/4

    Barbed Crescent
    Decent damage, long range(NOT a true ranged attack). Accuracy down effect still to be tested.


    Absolute Terror
    Lasted about 22 seconds.

    Gates of Hades
    Did alright damage with no MAB, INT, MND, etc. gear. Will test later.

    Tourbillion


    Pyric Bulwark
    Broken at the moment, cannot test.

    Bilgestorm

    Bloodrake
    Did 1758 to an EP turtle in Tahrongi and drained 100% of the damage as HP.
    Tried any of the physical ones on the back of CdC yet?

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    No, I have to go out for a bit so testing is on hold for a few, will get more details later.

    Also the poison on vapor spray is broken, it doesn't proc.

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    Can you guys see is counterstance from /mnk stacks with the spell please?

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    GoH with smoldering/lone wolf/ultimate atmas, ascetic, mab trait I and MAB oriented equip (INT 166, MND 162, CHR 103, Mab +39(12%moon only) and Vulcan's staff) did 4476.

    @Vathris That would require long parsing (assuming parse works on test server) to check difference between 45%(?) and 55% so probably none will try this now.

  12. #10032
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    I actually thought that just seeing if they have different icons would suffice ¿?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX01 View Post
    And those situations would be?

    Earth wyrms, sandworms off the top of my head for wind, and do I really need to list the things weak to ice in this game?

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    I still want to know why Frozen Mist was taken off the table. It stood to be a viable ice nuke lacking the in BLU arsenal.

    I know SE will claim its broken because of the terrorize though. As if they couldn't just tweak it to be more like stun and less like terror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vathris View Post
    I actually thought that just seeing if they have different icons would suffice ¿?
    I switched to normal server but I recall counterstance from spell had same icon as you have when you enter BCNM instance.

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    Orc Counterstance gives the effect of Counter Boost which is separate to the Counterstance effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Orc Counterstance gives the effect of Counter Boost which is separate to the Counterstance effect.

    Very very nice !

  18. #10038

    Quote Originally Posted by darkepyon View Post
    Tried any of the physical ones on the back of CdC yet?
    CdC to Amphoric Spikes makes Darkness. Haven't seen any results with Quadrastrike.

    Has anyone tested skillchain properties of Tourbillion, Bilgestorm, or Bloodrake?

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    *Both Expiacion--->Quadrastrike and Savage Blade---> Quadrastrike yielded Liquidation. Goblin Rush--->Quadrastrike was also Liquidation, so I don't think it has Level 2 properties.

    *Expiacion--->Barbed Crescent was also Liquidation; Savage Blade--->Barbed was Distortion. This indicates that it's Primary Distortion, Secondary Liquidation.

    *Expiacion--->Bloodrake was nothing; Savage Blade--->Bloodrake was Distortion. So I guess it's Distortion.

    *Barbed Crescent's Accuracy Down duration is 1 minute.

    *The duration of Gates of Hades's Burn is 1:30 seconds. The tics took off an observable amount, so it's at least moderately strong.

    *Recast on Orcish Counterstance is actually 1:06(ish), not 11 seconds.

    Other loose observations:

    *Barbed doesn't have a terrific range to it- I'm not the best at eye balling distance but it seemed like it was only a little better than Quadratic. Maybe 10'?
    *Quadrastrike didn't seem to be criticaling outside of CA- however, this is just an eyeball.
    *Bilgestorm does fairly low AoE damage (sub 600 to colibri in Abyssea with RR atma and cruor buffs). Tourbillion does about twice as much. I did not test the -DEF effects, but if I had to guess (and this is purely extrapolation) Bilgestorm probably does more -DEF while Tourbillion does more damage with less -DEF. EDIT: Actually, it could be the same (or even worse) since Bilgestorm has the extra enfeebles on it.
    *Absolute Terror was resisted on Heqet and Gukumatz, which does not bode well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brave View Post
    CdC to Amphoric Spikes makes Darkness.
    How is damage on spikes? if good then AWESOME!

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