Magus Bazubands

[Koyangi]

Actually, I haven't leveled BLU yet (And I do intend to take it to 75 as soon as PLD is done) but I agree that any piece of AF that is destined to eventually be useless shouldn't be in the game. A permenant item shouldn't have a temporary effect (Aside from like... Ducal Guard's Ring and Stable necklaces and shit like that). Its AF for christs sake, it should always have at least some applicable stat (Even if its shitty and/or totally situational) instead of something that will inevitably be nothing.

Parrying +10 isnt that bad cmon!

[Aristigon]

It's sad when people are so happy that there is a piece of gear that makes aquiring abilites a job needs to function less painful. It's a sign of how far FFXI has strayed in the incorrect direction. But, hay! the game is still fun.

amazing, they came out with AF that makes getting the abilites easier, it's a damn shame.
those SE people.
how dare they, when AF is fully applied forgo those scant few that took it to 75 without AF to allow those low levels to get the abilities

[Correction]

It's sad when people are so happy that there is a piece of gear that makes aquiring abilites a job needs to function less painful. It's a sign of how far FFXI has strayed in the incorrect direction. But, hay! the game is still fun.

What?

Do you feel the same way about Treasure Hunter and rare drops that help your ls function? Or did you buy all your BLM/BRD/WHM spells from other people? Do you think Scrolls of Utsusemi:Ni get shat out of some Jeuno NPC's ass?

Making the game less painful to play is called progression. If you can't get your head around that concept I wonder why you're playing MMORPGs in the first place.

BLU hands don't break the game, they make things easier for the people that have the gear versus people that do not have the gear. God damn that's a good thing, but I guess people will bitch that any piece of released gear isn't as good as HQ abjuration or defending ring.

[AyrlynofDiabolos]

Well I did Learn lowing and Frost breath after the first time I saw it. Tail slap only took two tries, but you can't really gage them because spell learning is so random. I still have 4 abilities to learn one of them is Spinel cleave I hope that they kick in that after helping the other two ls BLU's I really hate those things.

[Lockecole]

It's sad when people are so happy that there is a piece of gear that makes aquiring abilites a job needs to function less painful. It's a sign of how far FFXI has strayed in the incorrect direction. But, hay! the game is still fun.

BLU hands don't break the game, they make things easier for the people that have the gear versus people that do not have the gear.

He was probably thinking along the lines of...

Here's an idea. Couldnt they just make BLU magic easier to learn (since every BLU and their mother will get the AF anyway) and actually put useful stats on the gloves?

Seriously, know a single BLU whos 52+ who isnt getting every piece of his AF? Judging by Soulflayer Robe prices, I'd say no. (I apologize if the gloves are quested, my point still stands) I still think the above idea is best, making Blue Spells easier to learn via equipping some gloves you were gonna quest anyway is entirely a gimic, and nothing else. Up the rate, put good stats on AF we had to wait an extra update for anyway. Lol @ them waiting to see how we played the job before implementing the AF. I guess they had to wait 2 months to realize BLU needs parry?

[Rocl]

I don't think AF hands require soulflayer robes? Or it's 4 AM and I missed the point ENTIRELY POSSIBLE

[FFXIFlux]

Seriously, know a single BLU whos 52+ who isnt getting every piece of his AF?

Yeah, want the body... and the ability to put it into AF storage.

But wait, we NEED the AF otherwise... shocking things seen in cutscenes that I won't spoil for people here will happen!

Full AF: check. Full spell list: check. Ability to enter Imperial Ward like every other Immortal: fail.

[Lockecole]

I don't think AF hands require soulflayer robes? Or it's 4 AM and I missed the point ENTIRELY POSSIBLE

I believe certain parts of BLU AF require Imperial Silk Cloth, which are obtained via desynth of those robes. Prices are in the range of 2-4.5M recently on Siren, so yeah basically they're hard to get, and very expensive.

[Rocl]

I don't think AF hands require soulflayer robes? Or it's 4 AM and I missed the point ENTIRELY POSSIBLE

I believe certain parts of BLU AF require Imperial Silk Cloth, which are obtained via desynth of those robes. Prices are in the range of 2-4.5M recently on Siren, so yeah basically they're hard to get, and very expensive.

Yeah, but at least they have MP >_> Look at the AF Legs, HP/VIT/AGI GOOOOOOOOOOOOAL and I'm pretty certain those require Imperial Silk Cloth where the Hands don't

[Charla]

I guess they had to wait 2 months to realize BLU needs parry?

<SE_dev_01> ok, i heard some guy on alla say that blu can solo pretty well at like level 20, what should we put on AF to help that
<SE_dev_05> uh, how about like evasion or parry or something

[Correction]

It's sad when people are so happy that there is a piece of gear that makes aquiring abilites a job needs to function less painful. It's a sign of how far FFXI has strayed in the incorrect direction. But, hay! the game is still fun.

BLU hands don't break the game, they make things easier for the people that have the gear versus people that do not have the gear.

He was probably thinking along the lines of...

Here's an idea. Couldnt they just make BLU magic easier to learn (since every BLU and their mother will get the AF anyway) and actually put useful stats on the gloves?

Seriously, know a single BLU whos 52+ who isnt getting every piece of his AF? Judging by Soulflayer Robe prices, I'd say no. (I apologize if the gloves are quested, my point still stands) I still think the above idea is best, making Blue Spells easier to learn via equipping some gloves you were gonna quest anyway is entirely a gimic, and nothing else. Up the rate, put good stats on AF we had to wait an extra update for anyway. Lol @ them waiting to see how we played the job before implementing the AF. I guess they had to wait 2 months to realize BLU needs parry?

BLU hands don't require the silk, and the silk is only expensive now because the early adopters always pay the premium prices (lol gobbiebag items). I realize that someone who wants full AF NOWZ is getting the rough end of the pineapple when it comes to the shoddily-designed system of aquiring it. But that's besides the point.

It's not that hard in the long run to learn a full complement of BLU spells, with or without the hands. People seem to forget that other jobs work just as hard to progress in their skills (i.e. keeping usable weapons capped, buying ridiculous fucking gear, doing stupid quests). Every job has a timesink. I don't see what's worth whining over BLU's anecdotal difficulty learning spells. Sleepga II is comparable in farming difficulty and it's a level 56 spell. WSNM, Utsu: Ni, Carnage Elegy, these all require big investments of time or money and without them the jobs that use them cannot really function 100%.

Same deal with BLU spells. You want a game that just hands you shit for free without any time/money spent? Go play another game. The hands are a fine piece of equip and honestly the difficulty of learning BLU magic is strongly oversold to the general public. The truly hard to learn spells (lol Body Slam) aren't that useful, anyway.

[Celeras]

The AF gloves are pure unadulterated trash.

Why? Because I learned all my spells pre-patch, and their existance makes me cry at night.

[Eternus]

SE should have had all the AF, AF+1, AF2 and AF2+1 released for the new jobs when the fucking expansion was released. Don't complain though when you leveled the job and learned the spells when you knew damn well there was AF coming out later. Everyone and their mother knew BLU AF was going to have a piece that made learning spells easier, but alot of people still wasted their time learning spells and leveling a job that wasn't ready when it was released. That being said the AF for the new jobs suck and to get the AF you have to farm shit that can be sold (something for RMT to farm). Hopefully the AF2 and AF+1 is worth a damn if it is even released.

[Gulkeeva]

SE should have had all the AF, AF+1, AF2 and AF2+1 released for the new jobs when the fucking expansion was released. Don't complain though when you leveled the job and learned the spells when you knew damn well there was AF coming out later. Everyone and their mother knew BLU AF was going to have a piece that made learning spells easier, but alot of people still wasted their time learning spells and leveling a job that wasn't ready when it was released. That being said the AF for the new jobs suck and to get the AF you have to farm shit that can be sold (something for RMT to farm). Hopefully the AF2 and AF+1 is worth a damn if it is even released.

Eh, well although most of the blu af seems like trash, the body is still good at Lv75 for anything from solo, exp, to HNM. I'm sure the hands will have a use later when SE releases warcry, zypher wind, stuff from soulflayer etc etc for blu you'll want those af hands again for that.

Oh and the head piece is good if you pay attention to the BST monster weakness/strengh chart thing. I personnaly don't and just use voyager sallet.

[Dezzimal]

Speaking of the head, has anyone done tests to see how effective it is?

[Priran]

Just from a couple quick tests, it increases the effect of a spell from a family strong in relation to the target by 20-25%.

[FFXIFlux]

Everyone and their mother knew BLU AF was going to have a piece that made learning spells easier, but alot of people still wasted their time learning spells and leveling a job that wasn't ready when it was released.

I didn't. I didn't think SE was that flameingly retarded, but they've proven me wrong.

Speaking of the head, has anyone done tests to see how effective it is?

Um.... whats weak to beastman or lumorians? Not like I'm going to load up Terror Touch over a level 60+

[Ryko]

I didn't think SE was that flameingly retarded

Bullshit >

[Priran]

jesus christ, something doesn't meet Flux's approval

mediocre Af1 at that



The hat and body are great macro pieces.
The hands are good for getting someone who thinks your spell will take 6 hours to learn to help.

Seriously, 2 macro pieces and 1 situational one isn't bad for AF1. Hell, it's better than some AF2. I don't know what you were expecting. If you honestly thought any of the new jobs' AF was going to be 5/5 useful until high-70s like PLD, you were setting yourself up for disappointment.

Then again you always try to be disappointed.

[SephYuyX]

What job at 75 uses more than 1 or 2 peices of AF full time anyway huh?

DRK body?
BLM feet?
NIN body?

Just a few for example, but those peices are never used and rarely in a macro for situational use.

And guess what, BLU has one of those pieces too. Its good untill it can be replaced with a better equip. Just because someone has nothing better to do and lvld a new job to 75 in a week doesnt give them a right to bitch. I believe the reason SE didnt release the AF was to try to persuade people not to level so fast.

So what the hell are people bitching about?