Originally Posted by
Some idiot named CellyO
Afraid of being wrong? Excuse me, but it's an open and shut case that 24 people cannot absolute clear any Dynamis, let alone with the configuration that they have. Have you ever been to a Dynamis that's a full clear, pre and post boss, in your life? Had you ever, you would be able to accept what Gweivyth is saying and move on. I'm sorry, but no one with any experience is ever going to buy this person's story (editor's note: this would be me lol), and I presume it's being told to appeal to the only group that actually respects him, L:50-ish RDMs who have never set foot in Dynamis.
What he's proposing is mathematically impossible, and it would take sheer ignorance of Dynamis to even give the guy a benefit of the doubt. I'm in a Dynamis shell where anything less than 10 relic in a city is considered disappointing. The last time I ever heard anyone asking if we were going to win was when we deliberately waited until the 10 minute warning to even pull the boss because the entire ordeal is such a pushover. I've been at this for a year and a half, I'm 5/5 on BLM, 4/5 on BRD, 3/5 on DRG, 2/5 on WHM, and have several relics for jobs I don't even play because they're getting thrown away at this point. I don't know who this person is trying to fool with their sheer arrogance and exaggeration, but if I'm supposed to buy it, please don't make me laugh.
First of all, the RDM/NIN puller? A "powerful Dynamis puller"? Any shell capable of a full clear in the first place would never allow a Red Mage to pull, the very thought is ridiculous. Endgame Stoneskin and Phalanx can't overcome enemies that hit you for 200 a strike, let alone pulling over ten of them at a time, which, in some spots, cannot be avoided if you're going for a full clear. Heck, Red Mage/Ninja can't endure a single Xarcabard pull without Powder Boots, and he expects me to believe he's the main puller in his shell? Any shell worth a Dynamis will have a Ninja or a Thief do it, RDM/NIN being a defensive powerhouse is 100% myth.
Secondly, the BLMs were resting? Where? Off in some remote corner where the absolute constant pulls you'd have to be making for what you're saying to even be reasonable won't touch them? And what of the statues? For this scenario to be possible, you would have to make one pull after another with no lulls, and BLM MP can't hold up to that, especially with a Ninja sub. What did you do to the statue pileup while they were resting? Kite it? With who? Your four "pimped out" Ninja and Warriors? Your sleepers, who will always have 10 enemies on their hands? Your healers? Did you kite them yourself, in spite of the fact that you can't wait ten seconds before going to pull again? If six people were really "AFK must of teh tym lol," then this hole becomes even bigger. Your scenario requires the use of people you didn't actually have.
Let's see. Eight "pimped out" Warriors and Ninja, completely necessary to keep up a suitable pace down to the last member. One RDM/NIN puller who is never at camp, and if you say that you were, you acknowledge this story as being 100% exaggeration. Five BLM/NIN, who rest between statues in some far-off corner away from the pulls you must constantly be making from all directions. A lenient estimate of five sleepers, and I wouldn't doubt more, to keep 10-15 enemies asleep at all times. An estimate of three or four healers, because your melees can't be kept alive against Wrath of Gu'dha, constant Orc AOE or Hundred Fists in any other way. And six people who were AFK most of the run, despite the fact that every single component of your little flawed puzzle is necessary to even hundred-to-one luck out and full clear with the configuration you say you had? I'm sorry, but you're lying. There are holes in your story that no amount of crap can fill.
Did you mean you just won, and consider that a clear of Dynamis? Did you mean you cleared every necessary enemy and then pulled the boss? Come ON. How could I give your fairytale the benefit of the doubt?
Oh, and did I mention RDM/NIN needs Powder Boots to even attempt to pull Xarcabard? Why would your shell even let you at that point? If you're good enough to full clear a city with 24 people (ahaha, aha), surely you guys can afford a better puller than RDM/NIN. With performance (ahaha, aha) like that, a Thief or a Ninja with pulling experience would be more than happy to take over and make the situation better. In fact, why don't you have more members in the first place? With a track record like this (ahaha, aha), people, good people, should be crawling out of the woodwork to join you, because you're clearly the best Dynamis shell on any server if you could clear every enemy with 24 people, six of which are AFK most of the run. And you wouldn't deny more members either, because you can't kill Dynamis Lord or do any Attestations or Shards without them. What's going on with that? Do you expect me to believe you have a static Dynamis group that admits no one and trumps the runs of every shell everywhere, yet you have no ambitions of relic weapons or Shadow items? A full clear of a city is like 600 coins, that's less than a year to put together a relic weapon or two. Shadow items speak for themselves. Who are you trying to kid here?
Saying Bastok and San d'Oria are easy is no copout for a fantasy story like this. My shell refers to San d'Oria as Dynamis - Kindergarten and Bastok is such a joke that it doesn't even deserve a title. We do full clear these areas, down to the last enemy, then we have to let the hourglass run out while we make fun of city Dynamis. Any reader will know both of these areas are easy, but any educated reader will see that as a complete copout. I've heard about the Red Mage forums being arrogant, I've read stories about how you people try to glorify the job and seem superhuman at any possible opportunity, but this is just ridiculous.
As a Dynamis veteran, I more than acknowledge the possibility of winning a Dynamis with 24 people. It's child's play. But to say you've full cleared with this many, a fourth of which were AFK most of the run, when I've done numerous runs with numbers like that during lulls in my Dynamis shells, and they've gone perfectly to the last pull, with everyone at their computer the whole time, is simply ridiculous. I've won Beaucedine with 25, so don't try to pull any weird, made-up experience card here. You're trying to tell a fairy tale to someone who's on par with the Dynamis knowledge of any single person, and I'm not buying it.
Condescending to a respected forum member? It might be easier not to if they'd stop lying. This is a schpiel that no Dynamis veteran could possibly believe, and I'd suggest editing and bumping the numbers up a bit before people start coming in here. XD