Weapon Skill setup for nin

[Credos]

Why do soo many people think F/S is a good idea urrgrggrlgkjnbahbkbgngbjfdvnigigwjg0ww435363461ghd tjtryw

The weapon itself says "Critical Hit Rate +6%" that said, it could apply to both weapons, and you would want to main hand the higher base DMG one.When you merit Critical Hit Rate, it says increase critical hit rate by 1 percent. Would that apply to main hand weapon only?
edit: personally I use senji/shiranui, but that's because I'm lazy.

Except that's not how it works?

The only thing that carries over from an off hand weapon are stats (STR, DEX, ACC etc). Critical hit rate and TP bonus are two things that don't.

Edit: WS macro:

Senji/Unji
Bomb Core
Shura Kabuto
Breeze Gorget/Hope Torque
Brutal Earring
Minuet Earring
Haubergeon/Osode
NIN Tekko +1 / Bando Kote
Snipers/ Rajas
Cerberus +1
Potent Belt
Byakko's Haidate
Rutter Sabatons

[Alibeemac]

Just hit 75 last week and I still need to work on my WS setup but atm it stands like this:

Weapons: Senj/Perdu
Ammo: Bomb Core
Head: Shura Kabuto
Neck: Peacock Charm (Will get Breeze Gorget when stupid sharks stop being stingy)
Ear: Bushinomimi/Brutal
Body: Hauby (Will use Osode when I cap Katana Merits. 3/8 atm)
Hands: Bandomusha Kote (Will switch to AF+1 when I get the Temenos Piece)
Ring: 2x Flame
Back: Cerb Mantle
Waist: Warwolf
Legs: Byakko's Haidate
Feet: Rutter Sabatons

Currently 5/5 STR and 4/4 Crit Hit Rate Merits. Having SAM at 75 made my NIN fun to level into at 75 as I already had all the gear and non job specific merits :D

[Swampthing]

Can I see a link to the proof everyone is going off to say that weapon skills ignore % chance to crit on a subbed weapon? It just doesn't make sense to me as to why it would ignore that.

[rithridan]

A lot of people who use osode over haubergeon (with capped katana merits), do you all feel +5 str +5 dex is better then +10 att and +10 acc? Haubergeon looks like the better option to me, it means you can put more +str/+dex/+att in other slots where you would need +acc now.

my WS gear is:

Senji/Perdu
O.Hat
Breeze Gorget
Brutal
Minuet
Haubergeon
Ninja Tekko +1
Rajas
Sniper
Amemet +1
Potent (maybe I should use Warwolf)
Byakko's
Savage Gaiters (should really get myself a Rutters)

I might have overstocked on +acc though, I hit mostly in the 600-700s (eyeballed) barely ever break 1k+ while doing merits. I'm 8/8 Katana merits but 0/5 on stat+ merits. I mostly eat sushi except for mire/colibri. I TP in either turban/af(haste), o.hat/haub(acc) or turban/haub(both).

[Carnusty]

A lot of people who use osode over haubergeon (with capped katana merits), do you all feel +5 str +5 dex is better then +10 att and +10 acc? Haubergeon looks like the better option to me, it means you can put more +str/+dex/+att in other slots where you would need +acc now.

Osode is really powerful when your accuracy/attack is near capped (Read: Bard in Caedarva Mire eating Meat). I had one for a short while, I only really used it when WSing in the Mire or on Puks, though. My Jin setup is somewhat lacking in ACC, so I stuck with a Haub for Mamool and the like.

[levish]

Can I see a link to the proof everyone is going off to say that weapon skills ignore % chance to crit on a subbed weapon? It just doesn't make sense to me as to why it would ignore that.

They are right (forgot to specify S/F as was commonly accepted) but it's a tossup last time someone parsed F/S or S/F. AFAIK Its not like the offhand cannot be one of the hits that crit only place it would make a difference is if the last hit is mainhand (more than likely) or offhand. Either way we are talking about a difference on the last hit of a 3 hit ws that has either +3% chance on that one hit or +1 base damage for multiplying.

[draxyl]

The info I remember reading is somewhere on the KI Nin forum pages...someone wrote a quick custom parser (in perl I think?) to record critical % chance for each hand. It was pretty clear from the data collected that the crit bonus only applied to the wielding hand, but that was for normal swings. From what I remember, the data should be something like 2 years old.

I don't think anyone has proved/disproved crit bonus on offhand for WS. What a pain in the ass that would be w/ Jin.

edit: this is why destroyers are so pwn on monk, and why people cry about it. Because it's the only crit bonus weapon that applies to both hands, which is also why monks tend to parse around 15-16% crit rate.

[Swampthing]

ahh, thank you