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  1. #5661
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    HAY GUYZ

    I JUST GOT HOLY (Pld 55)

    HOW DOES IT WORK? (spell formula)

    HOW I FISH FOR HOLY MB'S? (I WANNA MB TOO, NEVER DONE IT)
    It only works if you absolutely need to claim something, flash is down, and you aren't subbing WAR.

    But seriously, I've only really used it for real in Dynamis occasionally when I absolutely need to claim multiple mobs (Provoke, Flash, Shield Bash, Holy, Banish...). However, the really stupid MP cost is rarely worth using it for anything. You can probably do more damage on anything worthwhile with a few Reprisals. It's fun to one-shot things in starter zones with it though. /shrug

    With that being said, I know the damage is based very heavy on users MND, and might possibly be a direct Caster/Target MND comparison. I've tried it even with a MND build, and it still just plain sucks for PLD except in the quick claim situations I mentioned earlier. Assuming instant casting isn't a problem, Banish will do just as good for a fraction of the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph View Post
    It only works if you absolutely need to claim something, flash is down, and you aren't subbing WAR.
    And even then, the range is as short as voke. QQ

    ih8u holy.

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    I decided to update my windower from 3.3 since I kept getting error message when I pushed the play button. I would just drag the error message off screen and ignored it but w/e I dc I would need to restart XI all over again so I decided to try 3.41 out.

    I been trying to get 3.41 but every time I click download it will get to about 50% and say 8seconds remaining and then freeze. It is very aggravating trying to play XI w/o recasts so I tried to go back and download 3.3 and every time I hit play pol crashes. Anyone got any idea on how to fix 3.41 or 3.3?

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    his is no longer true; at some point a year or so back they changed things so magic haste does affect recast while weak.

    A BRD with a good fast singing setup can put Ballads on between raises, watch to see when the WHM stands up, and sing both marches before Raise III goes off. Maybe not if they're using Celerity though.
    Well wow, now I feel kinda stupid. I always cast in full haste gear and use celerity where poss. But I completely missed that change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldelphia View Post
    Well wow, now I feel kinda stupid. I always cast in full haste gear and use celerity where poss. But I completely missed that change.
    surprised me too when i discovered it. i think we worked out it was changed in the rune chopper nerf, but i'm not 100% on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubbers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Korremar View Post
    Not that it's terribly important to me, just curious: The mods on Catastrophe seem pretty eh; what's an optimal WS set for it?
    This is pretty close (Stanislav's FFXIAH set): - FFXIAH.com
    I've always noticed (and parsed) that boosts to attack do much more than stacking STR on my Catastrophe...mainly because of no STR mod. The best gear for Cata would be full Ares not just for the attack but also for the extra DA.

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    anyone know how much eva evasion skills gives?

    IE evasion skill merits, and the evasion skill +# earrings?

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    I always thought 1 eva skill = 2 eva, but I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewie View Post
    I always thought 1 eva skill = 2 eva, but I'm not sure.
    I doubt it. If that were the case, then a mob's and player's evasion would go up twice as fast as their ACC as you leveled. I'm also not sure though.

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    i thought evasion curved and evasion skill increased how linear that curve was? its been a while since i looked into it though <_<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt Cobain View Post
    i thought evasion curved and evasion skill increased how linear that curve was? its been a while since i looked into it though <_<
    I really do hope someone answers this. A friend of mine leveled THF and was asking the difference between EVA and Skill. I didn't know what to tell him >.<

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    I figured it went 1:1 til 200, then .9:1 like Acc does, but I'm a War, SE forgot to give us Evasion skill.

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    1 eva skill = 1 eva? That doesn't make any sense at all.

    My belief is that eva caps at certain lvls depending on what the lvl of the mob you are fighting is, and eva skill increases the cap for it.

    EDIT: ALSO


    Does def really matter that much? PLD is 55 and I've been sporting snipe rings+1. Is the -24 def a huge issue or is it negligible?

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    I avoided snipers because of the -def.

    It isn't noticeable much on higher level mobs due to level correction POUNDFUCKING OUR ASSES HARD, but it is very noticeable doing FoV's and shit on lower level Ep-Em mobs with signet especially.

    It stands out in Campaign too, as the mobs are only 50~60ish, but have super HP/75ish stats in some cases. Going from berserk/DD gear to full turtle + protect takes me from 150~200 per hit to 10~30 with 50ish dmg crit shield blocks on War/Dnc.

    If you're in TP burn levels, you're a hybrid DD/Curebot, so it won't matter for jack shit I think, as you'll probably be co-tanking mostly.

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    I guess it was just the fact that the pt wanted to try birds at 51.

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    I had people try to do that.

    I went and did FoV's.

    Yes Colibri are super fucking wimpy.

    No I don't want a lvl 63 Colibri inserting it's beak like some sort of oversized pink phallus into my cute little taru fanny because the party thinks exp/kill is the end all be all of partying.

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    Does def really matter that much? PLD is 55 and I've been sporting snipe rings+1. Is the -24 def a huge issue or is it negligible?
    My understanding of it is that it's pretty pointless once you get your level corrected ATT: DEF ratio at 1:1 because T+ mobs cap at that. Past that, additional DEF only helps with crits.

    For EM or lower, it continues to mean something.

    Again, a brief explanation based on my understanding, feel free to correct/expand that if warranted >.>

    It still takes a moderate amount to actually hit that point of low-return, just not generally going all-out turtle. Depends on how much you're overcamping. Personally, my PLD static started on Lessers at 52, but as all the DDs were piercing strong, I didn't have to last too long =P

    If you're in a more ideal range, then pretty much standard WAR-ish gear + shield skill stuff is fine (usually pretty high defense anyway). I'd consider alternates for the Sniper's though. I bought Woodsmans to use for PLD XP, but Ecphoria might be a good stand-in too. -24 is a reasonably large chunk.

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    I've been going Ulth/Ecph or Ulth/Satt myself.

    I'm anal about -stats though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrave View Post
    I've always noticed (and parsed) that boosts to attack do much more than stacking STR on my Catastrophe...mainly because of no STR mod. The best gear for Cata would be full Ares not just for the attack but also for the extra DA.
    I don't feel like digging through his blog, but he has full Ares, tested using it for Cata, and determined that the average was lower.

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    All WSes have at least fStr which functions like a Str mod.

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