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  1. #201
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    i can dig the behind,

    but that face... well, you know mug root beer's logo?

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    Sad I noticed the clock said ~11:07 before I noticed the ass >_> in my defense I scrolled from top down, so the clock came into view first!

  3. #203
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    What if I told you during the entire thing, Auronku's password was never changed? Does it still qualify as stealing!? Let's not even get in to the fact you don't own your character, you simply spend your time leveling Square Enix's account! Is it theft then?

    Stop blanketing me in with BG, I don't even have a pearl anymore. As for comparing this to Ganiman, I don't see the comparison at all.

    Someone stealing = Someone knowing someone stole?

    In which case, why aren't we all attacking Shuemue who knew about this far longer but only decided to come out with it now because he got his knickers in a twist? Is it because he finally spoke up because he didn't get a share of the dough that makes him so righteous?

    No honour among thieves these days, for shame- for shame!

    It's OK though guys, AFK raping hot chicks temporarily

  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Someone stealing = Someone knowing someone stole?
    Actually, being an accessory to the crime is sometimes considered just as bad if not worse in some cases, so yes, I'd say it very well could be equal. It's the same idea as harboring a fugitive. "But I didn't break him out of jail, I just hid him from the cops!"

  5. #205
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    I'm going to play super hyperbole too. Robin Hood was a thief, but do you crucify him?


    Do you see how silly it is now?

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    And what good came to the community at large outside of the dramathread from this whole thing being kept a secret outside of a few select people profiting exactly?

  7. #207
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    Hold the phone guyz, someone who is seriously a part-time whore IRL has low morals and stole video game accounts for moneyz? NO WAI

  8. #208
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    There is a lot of fucking pointless "Baaaaw" and "I'm disappointed" in this thread. Seriously, come the fuck off it. Does anyone know what happened aside from what they heard? "Guys, I heard that pigs have started flying! Bancat knew who gave them the power and did nothing, get ready for it.... It was Lynsy!" Whoop dee fucking doo. E-detectives do lots of e-work. Unless Lynsy herself comes out and says she did it what e-proof does anyone have? BRB breaking out my e-detective kit. I'll get to the bottom of this, I swear it. Bottom line, don't be retarded and don't trust anyone.
    I'm not even saying this to berate or discredit Shue. What is fucking retarded is the people posting in here. So now that you all "know" how has your life changed? Will you ever look at ffxi the same again? Or will you be playing again next week like nothing ever happened?

  9. #209
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    Well that was a lot of input over something so unimportant to you.

  10. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    I'm going to play super hyperbole too. Robin Hood was a thief, but do you crucify him?


    Do you see how silly it is now?
    Pointless comparison, he stole from the corrupt. Not that the fugitive/prison break argument was any good...

  11. #211
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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Well that was a lot of input over something so unimportant to you.
    the topic post is w/e. The pointless bawwing etc is retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rammses View Post
    Pointless comparison, he stole from the corrupt. Not that the fugitive/prison break argument was any good...
    That argument on my behalf wasn't related to the original act at all, just to point out a situation where being an accessory can be considered a bad thing.

  13. #213

    I'm actually relieved having read this thread. When I was told there was another thread about the sash, the person made it sound like another had been stolen. Just to put some of these "questions" to rest because I don't want want to see people being falsely accused. Yes, as stated before I got everything back. The only people I know were involved without question were Lynsy and Doofus. We were lucky to be able to find a GM who gave half a damn and helped us with the IP matching and chat log gathering.

    Frankly, I have no qualms with Sono or any of the moderators. The bottom line is myself and the individual with the weak password brought this upon ourselves. Personally, I would never want to be associated in any way with someone who hacks accounts, but from what Sono says it seems that a small degree of action was at least taken. It's not Sono's fault that people like Lynsy and Doofus exist in this world. I fall into the category of people who wouldn't steal the plasma TV, but others aren't that way, and largely that's something that will never change.

    If you want to be upset with Sono because he didn't have a public announcement to warn people I think that's fair, but being in his shoes I probably would of done the same thing. This thread has served that purpose now though I guess and hopefully it's just another reminder to be more protective of your account.

    P.S. Go get Helix merits because they're made of awesome!

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    Just so I understand here, the sash theft isn't really people's main problem with this. It's the accounts stolen? Also, the accounts were hacked off of an RMT website?

    If this is true these people didn't leave their door unlocked to get their tv stolen. They put it in their car, drove to the worst neighborhood in town and left it on the street corner. Sorry, that isn't theft.

    As you can tell from my post count, I'm just a part time "General" lurker, and I did think seriously about canceling my account here. After review though BG is the single best resource for information about protecting a FFXI account from hacks that I have found. I see no BG fault here.

  15. #215
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    Clearly BG's leadership is corrupt. Therefore, BG-wiki cannot be trusted as a storehouse for FFXI information. Someone should make an entirely new wiki, so that the FFXI community is free from such wanton moral bankruptcy.

    Because that's what you do when you find out that people have been hiding marginally relevant information, even when "nobody got hurt in the end," right?
    You're acting like the mod's of this forum are God's or some shit. I mean they do their part to keep it up (the forum), made a good ls site back in the day that caught on and I love it (a lot) but at the end of the day they sit in their boxers with chips on their chins 24/7 on ffxi, jacking off to mithras,manthras (or Galkas-Sept) or browse related forums. STRESS- Anytime anyone gets the opportunity to gain in ffxi they take that shit no matter how high and mighty they act.


    OH AND BTW Lynsy: DUCK!

  16. #216
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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    Make a poll about it in spam:

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    you forgot otherwiki

  17. #217
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanss View Post
    You're acting like the mod's of this forum are God's or some shit. I mean they do their part to keep it up (the forum), made a good ls site back in the day that caught on and I love it (a lot) but at the end of the day they sit in their boxers with chips on their chins 24/7 on ffxi, jacking off to mithras,manthras (or Galkas-Sept) or browse related forums. STRESS- Anytime anyone gets the opportunity to gain in ffxi they take that shit no matter how high and mighty they act.
    I wouldn't totally agree with this level of hyperbole, but c'mon, anyone who expects some higher level of morality or standards from someone just cause they are a mod is foolish. People are people and no one is going to be impeccable in their judgment.

  18. #218
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanss View Post
    You're acting like the mod's of this forum are God's or some shit. I mean they do their part to keep it up (the forum), made a good ls site back in the day that caught on and I love it (a lot) but at the end of the day they sit in their boxers with chips on their chins 24/7 on ffxi, jacking off to mithras,manthras (or Galkas-Sept) or browse related forums. STRESS- Anytime anyone gets the opportunity to gain in ffxi they take that shit no matter how high and mighty they act.
    Ill clarify this, since its a misconception. Very few of the mod staff actually knew this was happening, the list was very short, even if acted upon, it wouldnt have stopped anything. This wasnt some giant bg conspiracy to do whatever, this was one person acting and other people being helpless to stop them. And no bg staff, that I am aware of, because I leaned hard with questioning to all of them, profited from this, not a one.

    Nobody here got paid, people got punished, there was nothing that could have been done to protect the community except to tell them to stop selling their accounts and make sure their passwords are secure. Oh wait, weve already told them that, selling an account on BG forums is bannable, and we have screamed to people about having good passwords.

    There seems to be a misconception that bg can control other people, regardless of friendships or not, this is not the case and sometimes people, even friends, make bad choices and we are powerless to stop them.

  19. #219
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    I think there's some confusion here. BG had nothing to do with actually stealing any accounts, just a few people from the BG forum knew about Lynsy doing it. Sure they could have banned Lynsy from the forum etc. etc. but what would that have done?

    That being said, I still think it's pretty shitty of Lynsy to do it anyways. I was always mildly annoyed on IRC when she spoke and I could never figure out why Q_Q.

  20. #220
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    Well most of that post was made in response to Sono's statement that Shue was butthurt cause he didn't get any profit from it, which in turn made me think others did profit.

    p.s. The jacking off to mithras was sarcasm and 24/7 ffxi.. though who knows everyone loves those damn mithras.

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