CSI + Prison Break + X-Files = FRINGE

**Insanecyclone** · 2011-09-09 23:20

Originally Posted by Hoss

Season premiere sept 23!

Damn that's fast. I thought it wouldn't start till next year.

http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/fox/fri...re-title/87396

Fringe Season 4 Premiere Gets New Title

Back in July, Fringe showrunner Jeff Pinkner revealed that the title of the season 4 premiere was "A Sort of Homecoming." As it turns out, though, that title might not be the final one used for the episode. DVDs containing a studio cut of the episode have been labeled as "Ep. 401 Neither Here Nor There."

That title's much more descriptive, and is at least more immediately prevalent to the events set up by the final minutes of the third season finale.

It's unknown whether the title of the episode was changed or whether Pinkner (and later executive producer J.H. Wyman) told a fib about the title. Either way, I think I like the new one better.

"Neither Here Nor There" could refer to the bridge that was created between the two universes by Peter Bishop (Joshua Jackson). It could also, of course, refer to Peter's state of being: the Observers confirmed that the events of "The Day We Died" mean that Peter somehow never existed. Will Peter's disappearance be addressed so early in the season? According to this title, it might be likely.

Fringe season 4 will premiere Friday, September 23 on FOX, with the episode "Neither Here Nor There."

**Baelorn** · 2011-09-21 09:58

Review of 4x01 and 4x02:

Try as you might, there are some marks that can never be scrubbed out entirely. There are some people who leave an indelible impression on our souls which remains long after they've gone, an afterimage burned onto our retinas, an echo of a cry for help, a sigh, a plaintive wail, or a whispered declaration of love.

Within the world of Fringe, Peter Bishop no longer exists. We saw him blink out of existence at the end of the third season finale, flickering before our eyes as two universes forgot all about him. Nature, of course, abhors a vacuum, so time and space rush to fill the void left behind when an item is plucked out of the timestream.

...

The season opener ("Neither Here Nor There") contains a rather ordinary procedural plot, but it also reintroduces us to the two universes, and to changes that have occurred as a result of Peter's non-existence. Some of these changes are slight, and some are rather large. The dead walk again as the living, memories are altered, personalities shifted as a result of Peter not being in the mix since the series began.

...

But it's the second episode of the season ("One Night in October") that brilliantly showcases what Fringe is capable of: emotionally resonant stories with sci-fi trappings that are intensely character-driven explorations of the human heart. This is very much the case with the largely Over There-set installment which finds the Fringe Division attempting to entrap a vicious serial killer whose methods for spreading death are rather unique, yet also connect to the wider philosophical issues at play here. Are we the sum of our experiences? Do our choices define us? Can we remember when those memories are cruelly ripped away from us?

Full review here. Minor spoilers.

**MoogleAura** · 2011-09-23 15:22

Tonight's the night! :D This & Boardwalk Empire are the 2 shows I can't wait to start watching again. ^^

**Insanecyclone** · 2011-09-23 19:59

FRINGE TIME

**Fiddle Sticks** · 2011-09-23 19:59

It's time and I'm actually excited!!!

**Saga** · 2011-09-23 20:01

commence wanking

wanking commenced.

**Insanecyclone** · 2011-09-23 20:37

Just plain nightmare fuel

**Baelorn** · 2011-09-23 20:57

Fucking...

Spoiler: show

Ah...how I've missed Fringe.

**grantlogan** · 2011-09-24 00:02

Great episode! I'm glad Fringe is still awesome. I like that Lincoln Lee has joined the team but where was alternate Lincoln?

**Baelorn** · 2011-09-24 02:09

Originally Posted by grantlogan

Great episode! I'm glad Fringe is still awesome. I like that Lincoln Lee has joined the team but where was alternate Lincoln?

Olivia probably thought it would be too much of a shock for Lincoln to meet his alt self on his first trip to the bridge.

**Laugana** · 2011-09-24 09:46

The second I saw Joe Flanigan, I knew his character wasn't going to live long, but I hoped he might have ; ;

And damn, at this rate Peter'll be sending his father back to the loony bin.

**Saga** · 2011-09-24 18:19

Originally Posted by Laugana

And damn, at this rate Peter'll be sending his father back to the loony bin.

Maybe that's Peter's plan? Maybe putting Walter back in the looney bin and having Liv come get him out or visit him in there "resets" something of some sort, like at the very beginning of the series.

**thestalkmore** · 2011-09-26 14:14

New quote for the staff when I go to Lowe's.

"Oh it's just a small project. Trying to erase someone from time."

**MoogleAura** · 2011-09-26 15:06

Curious as to why the Observer decided not to go through with erasing the residual images of Peter from the timeline. I know in the past there was that other Observer, August(?) that felt he had to act to change the outcome of things with that girl he saved because that was what was supposed to happen.

I think Peter and the Observer (The one we see most often) are linked somehow, maybe they are one and the same like someone already suggested.

**Laugana** · 2011-09-27 11:11

I think he just feels responsible for Peter and can't let him go.

**Dimmauk** · 2011-09-30 22:15

Originally Posted by thestalkmore

New quote for the staff when I go to Lowe's.

"Oh it's just a small project. Trying to erase someone from time."

I still like the one from last week about checking the anus.

Also, how are there 2 Broyles again?

**Scythiroth** · 2011-09-30 22:39

Originally Posted by Dimmauk

Also, how are there 2 Broyles again?

I just assumed that was related to Peter no longer existing, or whatever.

**grantlogan** · 2011-10-01 00:04

Fringe writing is top notch again, I can deal with the two universes working together all season and wait for Peter to show up next season.

**Baelorn** · 2011-10-01 00:08

Originally Posted by Dimmauk

I still like the one from last week about checking the anus.

Also, how are there 2 Broyles again?

Walternate was going to send Olivia home when Fauxlivia finished her mission but Liv remembered who she was and tried to escape. Walternate got pissed and told Brandon he could dissect her brain. Alt Broyles helped her escape so they used him to bring Fauxlivia home(exchange of mass).

It was Olivia remembering Peter that lead to her escaping. Without him I assume she never remembered she wasn't Fauxlivia in the first place.

**Skai** · 2011-10-01 10:49

Fauxlivia is so much hotter than Olivia, wildly so.

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