Mysteries of the Mighty Barbarians.

[kisada]

there's nothing wrong with the class; it's the best farming class in the game if not at least the same as a ww/sprint barb. but if it's played by someone who has no clue what they're doing or has no patience, that player's gonna die and die a lot.

i will say, though, that many of the skills the job has are awful and useless. i only started playing a barb a week ago and i feel like i can use the majority of skills for something. with DH, half the passives are garbage and most of the regular skills are, too.

[Lordender]

Sever legendary producing 40+ mil crits lol.

[Dimmauk]

there's nothing wrong with the class; it's the best farming class in the game if not at least the same as a ww/sprint barb. but if it's played by someone who has no clue what they're doing or has no patience, that player's gonna die and die a lot.

i will say, though, that many of the skills the job has are awful and useless. i only started playing a barb a week ago and i feel like i can use the majority of skills for something. with DH, half the passives are garbage and most of the regular skills are, too.

DH needs some sort of armor boosting or resist trait or something.

[Tajin]

You want a game with 5 melee classes?

[Nephlite]

Even after I boosted my resists and life to around 400/30k respectively, I'm still getting crushed a good deal more than my friends with my glass cannon. Morlok's are the worst. They can spam their fireball attack and one hit/dead. The shamans are a pain and whatnot but I can handle them. Hitboxes definitely need to be fixed. I use Hungering/devouring and Elemental/Nether Tents for splash/AoE damage when I get a nice pack infront of me. Belial and the snakes he spawns a few weeks ago were friggin nuts. I spammed NT while tossing out a Hungering to mop up the magus snakes and lo' and behold, one or two would pass right through the spam untouched and one shot me. Finally I resorted to running and gunning and was able to beat everything but still quite the pain in the ass.

That's pretty much what I'm getting out of DH now. It's all about the run and gun. Knowing your maps and knowing how mob mechanics work is key. Getting an elite pack held up on your templar on a corner has become commonplace dirty tactics. At least with a glass cannon in D2 for Amazon, you can wipe everything out in seconds. Yeah you might die but it's rare because you killed so fast and a lot of your passives saved you (dodge being one).

DH just doesn't seem that terribly powerful. I see people with 200k+ DPS still not able to effectively kill an elite pack or group because of missed attacks or bad affixes and they die quick. I concentrated a big portion of my resources on trying to get my dodge rate up and it saves my bacon. But when it doesn't, I die and quickly. There's no survivability, no wrecking of shit, no absolute of being one. And what the fuck is up with instant deaths from damaging zones? Moonseed deaths anyone?!

[Rehn]

Hows your gear? Have you tried cluster arrow/cluster bombs? If your base damage is decent, you could try trail of cinder rune for vault. My brother would literally kill elite packs in 2/3 vaults depending on positioning. But he does have 150k DPS, so your miles may vary.

[kisada]

it took me a lot of trial, error, and dying to figure out how to survive with a GC DH. but once you figure it out it's cake to play. keep working at it.

also the sever legendary sword lets you drop some crazy crits, but only on the killing blow. it's still relevant if you have lifesteal though.

someone's pic on another forum http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zqvlat&s=6

[Mrf]

Feel free to add me if you guys want an A3 farming partner / need help with anything.

I just redid my GC DH over the last couple days, and I'm looking for more people to play with.

Ajax#1189

[Syntex]

Even after I boosted my resists and life to around 400/30k respectively, I'm still getting crushed a good deal more than my friends with my glass cannon. Morlok's are the worst. They can spam their fireball attack and one hit/dead. The shamans are a pain and whatnot but I can handle them. Hitboxes definitely need to be fixed. I use Hungering/devouring and Elemental/Nether Tents for splash/AoE damage when I get a nice pack infront of me. Belial and the snakes he spawns a few weeks ago were friggin nuts. I spammed NT while tossing out a Hungering to mop up the magus snakes and lo' and behold, one or two would pass right through the spam untouched and one shot me. Finally I resorted to running and gunning and was able to beat everything but still quite the pain in the ass.

That's pretty much what I'm getting out of DH now. It's all about the run and gun. Knowing your maps and knowing how mob mechanics work is key. Getting an elite pack held up on your templar on a corner has become commonplace dirty tactics. At least with a glass cannon in D2 for Amazon, you can wipe everything out in seconds. Yeah you might die but it's rare because you killed so fast and a lot of your passives saved you (dodge being one).

DH just doesn't seem that terribly powerful. I see people with 200k+ DPS still not able to effectively kill an elite pack or group because of missed attacks or bad affixes and they die quick. I concentrated a big portion of my resources on trying to get my dodge rate up and it saves my bacon. But when it doesn't, I die and quickly. There's no survivability, no wrecking of shit, no absolute of being one. And what the fuck is up with instant deaths from damaging zones? Moonseed deaths anyone?!

Why I dropped my DH like a bad habit and never looked back.

Barb is so much fun and I feel like it's the one class(other then wiz) they actually took the time to make right. The others are not as well rounded IMO.

[Nephlite]

Hows your gear? Have you tried cluster arrow/cluster bombs? If your base damage is decent, you could try trail of cinder rune for vault. My brother would literally kill elite packs in 2/3 vaults depending on positioning. But he does have 150k DPS, so your miles may vary.

Gear isn't terrible. I'm sitting at 50kish DPS without S/S and about a 35% Crit rate. Around 110k with S/S. I tried a variety of stuff but will fool around with it when I get a chance. Only played a day or two post-patch so will be tweaking it. Haven't tried vault yet... sounds like I should jump on it before it gets fixed!

it took me a lot of trial, error, and dying to figure out how to survive with a GC DH. but once you figure it out it's cake to play. keep working at it.

also the sever legendary sword lets you drop some crazy crits, but only on the killing blow. it's still relevant if you have lifesteal though.

someone's pic on another forum http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zqvlat&s=6

Yeah once I figured it out I've made some strides in the right direction. I hate dirty tactics and would love to just stand up and wipe shit out. Gotta be smart to survive with DH. A3 is some real bullshit though with some of the instant death and invisible mob spawns.

Why I dropped my DH like a bad habit and never looked back.

Barb is so much fun and I feel like it's the one class(other then wiz) they actually took the time to make right. The others are not as well rounded IMO.

Next character is a Barb. I go out on maternity leave in a few days and will use that time to start one up. Love watching some of the video's about straight tanking.

[Dimmauk]

Even after I boosted my resists and life to around 400/30k respectively, I'm still getting crushed a good deal more than my friends with my glass cannon. Morlok's are the worst. They can spam their fireball attack and one hit/dead. The shamans are a pain and whatnot but I can handle them. Hitboxes definitely need to be fixed. I use Hungering/devouring and Elemental/Nether Tents for splash/AoE damage when I get a nice pack infront of me. Belial and the snakes he spawns a few weeks ago were friggin nuts. I spammed NT while tossing out a Hungering to mop up the magus snakes and lo' and behold, one or two would pass right through the spam untouched and one shot me. Finally I resorted to running and gunning and was able to beat everything but still quite the pain in the ass.

That's pretty much what I'm getting out of DH now. It's all about the run and gun. Knowing your maps and knowing how mob mechanics work is key. Getting an elite pack held up on your templar on a corner has become commonplace dirty tactics. At least with a glass cannon in D2 for Amazon, you can wipe everything out in seconds. Yeah you might die but it's rare because you killed so fast and a lot of your passives saved you (dodge being one).

DH just doesn't seem that terribly powerful. I see people with 200k+ DPS still not able to effectively kill an elite pack or group because of missed attacks or bad affixes and they die quick. I concentrated a big portion of my resources on trying to get my dodge rate up and it saves my bacon. But when it doesn't, I die and quickly. There's no survivability, no wrecking of shit, no absolute of being one. And what the fuck is up with instant deaths from damaging zones? Moonseed deaths anyone?!

Fire damage from mobs seems insane lately. Ran act 3 with a group and even the fire pits were one shotting people. LOL

it took me a lot of trial, error, and dying to figure out how to survive with a GC DH. but once you figure it out it's cake to play. keep working at it.

also the sever legendary sword lets you drop some crazy crits, but only on the killing blow. it's still relevant if you have lifesteal though.

someone's pic on another forum http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zqvlat&s=6

Is that the RIP proc?

[-Zer0-]

Looks like it. That's pretty crazy. I managed to snag a Sever for under 800k and was able to get 2m crits on Monk every so often. Need to toy around with it some more or try for a better Sever. Mine's only 991 dmg or something without a socket.

[kisada]

yeah it's the RIP proc.

and i also feel the same way about fire dmg. i feel like no amount of resists stops me from getting raped

[Hatedregret]

Agree on fire damage lately. Poison too, but even molten trail is terrible right now.

[kisada]

poison seems bad but yeah the molten trail is murderous and i have a ton of resists and LOH

[Thuronn]

Not sure where to put this.

Need a port to Prime Evil on Inferno, just needing to buy the Staff recipe on inferno.

Thuron#1760 I wanna kill some ponies

[Wetticus]

Not sure where to put this.

Need a port to Prime Evil on Inferno, just needing to buy the Staff recipe on inferno.

Thuron#1760 I wanna kill some ponies

I'm game and on right now if you need it. Wetticus61#1476

[Julian]

I got 4mil and some extra change to spend, this is my current gear: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/J...4/hero/3111146

Cleared act2 np, although not extremely comfortably, it's not difficult. Having a lot of trouble in act 3, though. Not really sure what gear upgrades to prioritize with the amount of money I have, so looking for any suggestions you guys may have.

[Wulfgang]

They nerfed Inferno so hard. Just beat Act II and it was a total breeze. Beat Belial first try in about 2 mins on Barb.

[kisada]

I got 4mil and some extra change to spend, this is my current gear: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/J...4/hero/3111146

Cleared act2 np, although not extremely comfortably, it's not difficult. Having a lot of trouble in act 3, though. Not really sure what gear upgrades to prioritize with the amount of money I have, so looking for any suggestions you guys may have.

looks like you don't really have enough AR to sustain taking more than one hit so you can try a glasscannon build where you essentially just try to dodge everything. ideally you'd want a lot of AR/HP so you can take a few hits but there's not much of an in between. even right now at best i can take 2-3 hits max before i die and that cost me quite a bit to get there. as such you'd be switching out shadow power for smokescreen/lingering fog. you'd also be changing your prep rune to backup plan. you could keep vengeance but i'd wayyyyy rather have steady aim. and definitely go with hungering arrow instead of shatter shot. it might be difficult at first but you need to think of it as one of those airplane top-down arcade games where you have a million bullets flying at you in all kinds of patterns and you're trying to dodge them all. GC is how all DH's were forced to play pre-1.03 anyway so don't think it impossible if you do.

one thing about using smokescreen instead of gloom and cluster bombs on reflect damage: you're gonna have to time it so that you hit smoke the moment the first bomb hits the monster. that way you get to evade all the damage reflected back at you. it's not like gloom where you activate it before and anything you cast while it's on gets absorbed.

gearwise, see if you can find a higher dmg x-bow (though that might be difficult with crit dmg on it) and don't worry about life on hit, an essentially meaningless stat on DH. grab a bodypiece and a quiver with as much discipline as you can get, which shouldn't be too hard to find if you're looking to just break even on the dex of your current pieces (well quiver might be expensive with 7.0 cc but look anyway). bracers shouldn't be too hard to upgrade if you're swapping out AR for more dex, and a helm with dex, crit chance, and OS shouldn't be too expensive either.

also might want to look up some youtube vids to see gc playstyle if you're not sure about it. i watched this one when i first started farming A3 and it helped me out a lot. the guy also has a few more vids on how to deal with different types of elites. and while i realize he's not using cluster bombs at least you can get an idea of how you want to be moving around http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4rHYhfq6tw

one last thing: use your scoundrel and give him a cold bow with blind, multishot, and the crit ability. it will make a huge difference. gl