Mysteries of the Mighty Barbarians.

**kisada** · 2012-09-05 00:37

man, that stream makes me want to get to 100, though i don't think i ever will.

at the very least i'll see how far i can go before i burnout. at 33 right now. missed out on a few gear pieces i really wanted tonight but hopefully i can rebound and grab them soon.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/k.../hero/25410277

**wynbert** · 2012-09-05 01:05

Might need help with my char -

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/w.../hero/18458166

Any suggestions would be great with build/gear.

I'm not rich by any means in game and would love to be able to farm with someone in game.

ID is wynbert#1126

Thanks!

**Deadgye** · 2012-09-05 03:29

Oh shit, I didn't know you could see gear offline now, that's pretty cool.

lolololol: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/D...1/hero/4041166 I forgot I had wirts leg and some other shit on when I last played the game. I made a small build that could use hammer of the ancients non stop with a high crit percent. I was testing to see if I could get some phat loots by attacking the same mob for 20 minutes before them. Stupid fucking ability procced only a handful of times. Giving me only 3 piles of gold total, and a bunch of health globes. Worthless pos.

Ollieyk · 2012-09-05 05:41

Originally Posted by kisada

lvl 96 paragon sprint barb streaming right now.

hilarious cause he's not even picking up any rares: legendary only

http://www.twitch.tv/alkaizerx

It's a bot apparently?

**Shenrien** · 2012-09-05 06:03

I don't think a bot could pull off what he was last night. Also I don't think a bot would have missed the Legendary he passed up. He dinged 97 last night when I stopped watching.

Ollieyk · 2012-09-05 06:23

Originally Posted by Shenrien

I don't think a bot could pull off what he was last night.

You'd be surprised lol.

Even if it's not a bot, it must be a multi-account or something, either that or he's asian and we'll see him in a news article soon entitled "gamer dies after 3 week 24/7 marathon".

**Rehn** · 2012-09-05 08:41

He actually said he played for nearly 18+ hours a day when paragon patch went live and he toned down by now (though still 6+ hours a day he says). As much as people like to rag on blizzard, I'd figure they'd nailed him by now if he actually was botting. Having the highest paragon level just makes you stand out too much.

**Roranora** · 2012-09-05 09:25

he said the fewest hours he's played any day since patch was 13hr, with many 18-20hr. he's probably 'only' playing 16 hours now that he's cruise controlling to 100

dude is strong enough to sprint wind rend and plays much. props to him, but he's just a loser playing some diablos. listening to his rambling on his stream (watched/listened 96.7 to 97) was painful at times, although he was right-on with a few perspectives

**kisada** · 2012-09-05 10:07

i think he was pretty spot-on with just about everything he said.

and he definitely isn't a bot: just a guy who plays a lot and who has optimized his exp method.

**Lordender** · 2012-09-05 10:52

Am I the only one who thinks fixing the loot system should be a lot easier than what Blizzard makes it out to be?

Currently in game all loot in inferno thats not I.lvl 61-63 is pretty worthless, I don't even pick up i.lvl 60 loot anymore unless its ring/amulet. Blizzard should just admit that their "tier system" just failed.

All items that drop inside of Inferno should be able to roll up to I.lvl 63 stat budgets. If the same item drops in later hell, it can only roll up to I.lvl 60 stat budgets. If I find a crappy king blade right now or a spatha, I don't even pick it up, however in a fixed inferno loot system, that weapon could be a 1200dps wep(if lucky).

Boost drop rate on legendary's in A3/A4 slightly, make those places the hotspots to keep everyone from just chilling in A1.

They also need to tighten up the rolls on class specific gear, str, int should not be able to pop on quivers, monk helms, only dex and vit should roll, just make the amount vary to keep the low, medium, high end spectrum of quality. If all items have the potential to be big ticket items that drop inside of Inferno then you've pretty much fixed most of the gripes people have with the loot system.

**Rehn** · 2012-09-05 11:53

Originally Posted by wynbert

Might need help with my char -

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/w.../hero/18458166

Any suggestions would be great with build/gear.

I'm not rich by any means in game and would love to be able to farm with someone in game.

ID is wynbert#1126

Thanks!

Heya, before my brother went full natalya, he tried to load up on max discipline. So quiver+cloak and he'd have 50 max disc right off the bat. You could also use cluster arrow/cluster bomb instead of elemental arrow; I find he does pretty good damage to grouped up mobs. Also, before they nerf vault/trail of cinders, you could try that too. It was fun for him to use a defensive skill offensively; but you'd have to take caution to not kill yourself too much.

You seem to prefer hybrid dex/vit/mf gear, which may make your gear a bit more expensive, but to each his own. Increased attack speed is also of great help when you can stand your ground and shoot constantly, but that might take a toll on your wallet. So for rings: 2x 7% IAS and 9% IAS gloves and 9% IAS amulet should skyrocket your DPS.

Crossbows tend to outweigh bows as well when you start gearing for more crit% (due to passive), so can keep that in mind when upgrading weapons.

**kisada** · 2012-09-05 12:03

Originally Posted by Lordender

Am I the only one who thinks fixing the loot system should be a lot easier than what Blizzard makes it out to be?

Currently in game all loot in inferno thats not I.lvl 61-63 is pretty worthless, I don't even pick up i.lvl 60 loot anymore unless its ring/amulet. Blizzard should just admit that their "tier system" just failed.

All items that drop inside of Inferno should be able to roll up to I.lvl 63 stat budgets. If the same item drops in later hell, it can only roll up to I.lvl 60 stat budgets. If I find a crappy king blade right now or a spatha, I don't even pick it up, however in a fixed inferno loot system, that weapon could be a 1200dps wep(if lucky).

Boost drop rate on legendary's in A3/A4 slightly, make those places the hotspots to keep everyone from just chilling in A1.

They also need to tighten up the rolls on class specific gear, str, int should not be able to pop on quivers, monk helms, only dex and vit should roll, just make the amount vary to keep the low, medium, high end spectrum of quality. If all items have the potential to be big ticket items that drop inside of Inferno then you've pretty much fixed most of the gripes people have with the loot system.

another thing that really magnified the design idiocy of the game was watching that barb on stream last night. it really tells you something about the game when the guy literally does not bother to pick up rares, both because of slowness in IDing items and the lack of quality of rares compared to legendary items.

**kisada** · 2012-09-05 12:06

Originally Posted by Rehn

Heya, before my brother went full natalya, he tried to load up on max discipline. So quiver+cloak and he'd have 50 max disc right off the bat. You could also use cluster arrow/cluster bomb instead of elemental arrow; I find he does pretty good damage to grouped up mobs. Also, before they nerf vault/trail of cinders, you could try that too. It was fun for him to use a defensive skill offensively; but you'd have to take caution to not kill yourself too much.

You seem to prefer hybrid dex/vit/mf gear, which may make your gear a bit more expensive, but to each his own. Increased attack speed is also of great help when you can stand your ground and shoot constantly, but that might take a toll on your wallet. So for rings: 2x 7% IAS and 9% IAS gloves and 9% IAS amulet should skyrocket your DPS.

Crossbows tend to outweigh bows as well when you start gearing for more crit% (due to passive), so can keep that in mind when upgrading weapons.

yeah i've promoted it more than a few times before but try cluster bombs. and try to wean yourself off of tactical advantage (i'd use sharpshooter): if you're doing azmodan runs it's unnecessary and it'll teach you that it's still possible to deal with fast monsters when you use smart smokescreens.

**JamesRay** · 2012-09-05 12:24

I know there is a RQT thread but this seems to get more traffic. Was thinking about coming back with the new patch and was curious how people are playing wizards now. My current gear is stupid cheap/bad and I only have 400k or so to my name. I was also wondering if there was a job that can clear act 2+ inferno relatively cheaper than others? Like I could have worse gear on say a Barb and still do ok enough to start farming.

Thanks much

**Rehn** · 2012-09-05 12:50

Do you mind posting your profile? For clearing cheaply, I personally found wizard to be great. I used to go monk, but the cost/effort just became too great unless I gear 2 handed and focus only on beating inferno. Tried doing inferno on monk again with some quickly tossed-on gear but lost interest.

Here's my profile:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/V.../hero/16909940

I recently upgraded to have +crit% along with critdmg weapon a few weeks ago. My DPS before my upgrade was around 58k. The old and standard way is venom hydra/blizzard everything, but another build you can go for is the critical mass build. You'd have to go to wizards forum on battle.net to look that up; I don't use that build.

Also, act2 is just plain awful for new wizards due to those damn lacuni's along with the betrayed. Elite packs for either are sure to mess up your day unless you're well geared. Do you know anyone who could give you the act 3 waypoints?

**Arkanna** · 2012-09-05 12:56

Originally Posted by JamesRay

I know there is a RQT thread but this seems to get more traffic. Was thinking about coming back with the new patch and was curious how people are playing wizards now. My current gear is stupid cheap/bad and I only have 400k or so to my name. I was also wondering if there was a job that can clear act 2+ inferno relatively cheaper than others? Like I could have worse gear on say a Barb and still do ok enough to start farming.

Thanks much

Here's my wizard:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/G...963/hero/88210

Ignore the skill build, I was experimenting with different crap trying to get past Cydaea, which is where I've hit an utter brick wall. I just get overwhelmed by spiderlings, no matter how fast I kill them. I normally roll with:

Electrocute (runed to return AP per enemy hit)
Disintegrate (runed for 35% chance to do big AOE damage)
Hydra (Arcane)
Energy Armor (Force)
Magic Weapon (Force) - though I'm not certain this works on Hydra/Disintegrate, I tried using the rune that returns life on damage but I never seemed to get any life back. Might switch back to Familiar (Sparkflint)
Mirror Image (Duplicates)

Illusionist
Glass Cannon
Temporal Flux

I steamroll Act 1, do ok in Act 2 (though Act 1 is more efficient farming just in sheer volume of mobs killed), and struggle in Act 3. And, as I said, Cydaea is a straight-up brick wall for me with that gear/skill set.

**kisada** · 2012-09-05 13:46

I'll kill it for you later if you need

**Arkanna** · 2012-09-05 14:05

Originally Posted by kisada

I'll kill it for you later if you need

I appreciate the offer, but I think I'll tough it out. I'm close to being able to get past her, I think all I need is a couple gear upgrades (namely, 1000+ DPS 1-hander and legs/shoulders that add some damage benefit).

**Rehn** · 2012-09-05 14:33

For shoulders, you can grab some INT/VIT/life% shoulders for cheap. Body/pants could go up to 100+ as well for pretty cheap. If those spiderlings give you trouble, try swapping mirror images for diamondhide; it effectively gives you 20k+ health. Blizzard + cold blooded passive will increase your damage as well.

**Arkanna** · 2012-09-05 14:36

Not bad ideas, I haven't tried Diamondhide since before Inferno was toned down.

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