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  1. #12421
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    Acc is benefiting everyone because you can't afford agressor full time. Noone runs legion without this. Not that it matters because level 120 mobs is 0.1% of what matters in the game. Everything has been accuracy capped since 2006. So your so-called 2handed DD advantage doesn't exist.
    its not. believe it or not but for some 2 handers madrigal would be a waste in legion depending what mob you are fighting. The only time you would want "1" madrigal MAYBE would be against Harpeia or the ponys and thats the reason why you save aggressor for those instances ¬.¬. Fuck a mythic DRG doesnt even need madrigal on any of the mobs, besides our THF/THFs use feint anyway on very high evasiv stuff in legion.

    and Enfire is now seriously a total fucking waste of time and only takes out a slot in the ally for NOTHING compared to endark (which can be cast between mobs/waves). You really think a SMN enfire wont get resisted in legion lol? gees I get resists with m.acc staffs on nukes and stuns sometimes on SCH.

    if you want to compare jobs in an event, go FUCKING DO THE EVENT FIRST, before you start talking crap! Besides your MNK would be useing a hybrid PDT/haste set anyway and not your "perfect" TP gear you use outside of Legion, because you know, mob moves can still come through occasionally when the server decides to send a big spike lag towards your scholars and a dead melee is a bad melee.

  2. #12422
    I enjoy tapping my sisters fine ass
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    Speaking of enfire in legion. Someone in my shell had the idea that enfire worked well on ADL so lets apply it to legion. So we did a run with it, Fucking awful, never again.

  3. #12423
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    There's no point in arguing with Pchan what does and doesn't work in Legion, as he himself said he doesn't actually do the event at all.

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    Ignoring the dumbfuckery going on, grats indy. It's an amazingly fun weapon. Never regretting making it first.

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    Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    and Enfire is now seriously a total fucking waste of time and only takes out a slot in the ally for NOTHING compared to endark (which can be cast between mobs/waves). You really think a SMN enfire wont get resisted in legion lol? gees I get resists with m.acc staffs on nukes and stuns sometimes on SCH.
    I see. Endark does not get resisted but enfire does, try harder. Also parse or bust. And you all should stop acting like legion matters. And finally congrats on Apocalypse, a weapon that is notoriously inferior to everything available to dark. But I guess math are wrong again (inbefore it heals you guys !).

  7. #12427
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    https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Endark

    Endark gives about 100 attack with a good set. It's like a Minuet that's DRK-onry.

  8. #12428
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    Obviously, endark isnt instant like boost. if you boost every seconds, that's like an average of +60 attack every 15 seconds.

    it doesn't slow your DDing down if you time it between attack rounds either.



    oh, and macro it into party speak so people can tell you if you're timing it between rounds correctly if you're on a laggy connection.

  9. #12429
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    And you all should stop acting like legion matters.
    If it doesn't matter, why do you spend so much time arguing about it? You must not value your time very much.

    Also, if you aren't wearing DT- gear in Legion, you are the worst DD. End of math.

  10. #12430
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    I see. Endark does not get resisted but enfire does, try harder. Also parse or bust. And you all should stop acting like legion matters. And finally congrats on Apocalypse, a weapon that is notoriously inferior to everything available to dark. But I guess math are wrong again (inbefore it heals you guys !).
    I dont know if I should facepalm about your missing knowledge of other jobs or about the fact that you tried to force your WRONG math on jobs and then try to backpedal by saying legion is irrelevant after going 9920392 pages constantly about it...
    seriously pchan you can do all the math you want, if it doesnt pan out practically its wrong period. and your math for legion is flawed from the very beginning with wrong buff choices and gear choices.

  11. #12431
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    Ignoring the dumbfuckery going on, grats indy. It's an amazingly fun weapon. Never regretting making it first.
    Holy shit, I had no idea I would have fun doing trials. After the undead, its been crazy fun. Already love this thing.

  12. #12432
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    Also parse or bust
    Actually you are the one who should parse. As you do not do Legion, maybe parse a PW fight and see if your MNK is really winning a good ragnarok DRK.

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    >>>>MNK isn't invited to event

    >>>>event isn't relevant


    ic ic

  14. #12434
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    I've tried telling him Endark does more then just enspell damage on 3 or 4 occasions but I'm fairly certain he just skips over my posts now.

    If Legion isn't relevant then neither is any other content in game. Everything else is pathetically easy, requiring little buffs and the calibre of DD's you take doesn't really matter. The fact that PUGs can consistently win all content other than Legion kinda shows that.

    And yes Apoc is inferior damage to other choices available to DRK but it adds versatility and is a hell of a lot better than Ragna for lowman where MP/damage taken is worth a damn. I use my Apoc far more than Ragna purely for this reason. It allows the mages to relax more for trivial events and when we're lowman (i.e. virtually all the time for me) it's a far greater safety net and has been a difference maker on several occasions. It also lets you do stuff like go off and solo Bijou NM's completely unaided (until TH is required) with a normal subjob which reduces the numbers burden when farming.

    Most critically though, it's just plain more fun for most people. So yes, grats Indy on making a weapon that you'll probably enjoy more than any other weapon you own as well as adding a ton of versatility/low-man options to your DRK.

  15. #12435
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    I've tried telling him Endark does more then just enspell damage on 3 or 4 occasions but I'm fairly certain he just skips over my posts now.

    If Legion isn't relevant then neither is any other content in game. Everything else is pathetically easy, requiring little buffs and the calibre of DD's you take doesn't really matter. The fact that PUGs can consistently win all content other than Legion kinda shows that.
    He'd probably say the same thing about Odin v2 (not PUG friendly), which full dispels and would skew any ideal buff calculations. His definition of relevant content is content where MNK gets rewards. All other content is deemed "garbage."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahoro View Post
    He'd probably say the same thing about Odin v2 (not PUG friendly), which full dispels and would skew any ideal buff calculations. His definition of relevant content is content where MNK gets rewards. All other content is deemed "garbage."
    More along the lines of relevant content only being what he can tribox with his bff.

  17. #12437
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indalecia View Post
    Holy shit, I had no idea I would have fun doing trials. After the undead, its been crazy fun. Already love this thing.
    Go bloodtank things in campaign and laugh like a hyena as nothing can kill you. It's absurd.

  18. #12438
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    Go bloodtank things in campaign and laugh like a hyena as nothing can kill you. It's absurd.
    A lot of jobs can do this (pld rdm blu whm pup etc.) with crappy gear, several level caps ago. It's not very absurd.

  19. #12439
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    You're missing the point

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    That a level 99 player with apoc can outdrain damage done by groups of level 50ish mobs?

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