Then you were in the right Thorny I did not know this part of the story if you had been there all that time, that guy was in the wrong.
To you other idiots id like to see you camp 10 hours on Eastern Shadow or something then some guy from your LS says oh Eshadow open? Comes and camps vs you gets claim and gets drop right in front of you after being there 5 minutes and you would be perfectly fine with that.
Shut the fuck up.
He said the bank was funding what he couldn't pay for, and mentioned something about losing a mule worth of currency in ls chat, wouldn't give any specific numbers about what he had or didn't. I did add the word apparently, as I'm not holding their bank nor do I know what he has for gil/currency.
Change thread name to DROP XV: THORNY - TRUTH OR LIES, YOU TELL US.
Idk, idc, I'm bored. My balls tell me I should believe you and you're probably right. Not that I care.
He probably means Butterbean, Dankster's mule. We lost a few Kraken Clubs, and all Dynamis currency because Dankster held onto it on either Danksterr or Butterbean.
Edit: Just saw this >.>
I was in SA though, you weren't. When I left trip about 2 months ago you weren't there either. So it doesn't seem as if you were there more than a month...
Also. What's wrong with using some of the banks money to fund relics and mythics? SA did that for many of it's members and we were by no means a poor LS. We were never one of those LS' though that fully funded a relic, the member had to work for it on their end to obtain it to some extent. Hogg bought ALOT of the currency he had for his G horn himself, I always was on vent with him whenever he went L.Jade shopping. He did it slowly and steadily, and sometimes yes the bank did let him sponsor some runs. But what big end game shell these days doesnt let member sponsor sometimes, or even give them free currency or let them buy at a discount?
Even after Draken robbed us blind we still had enough money to keep going and to buy everyone Christmas gifts. I think Hogg is just trying to keep going what SA was doing. A good amount of sacks had relics, some even multiple. Aldaris has been there forever, and his SMN is his pride and joy, only natural to boost his favorite and best job.... Makes sense doesn't it? I mean as you said, he uses it for the LS quite often. But he has no qualms going other jobs when the situation indeed calls for it.
Just because I'm not on Garuda anymore either doesn't mean I don't speak to all of them and stay in contact. I still hop on vent once in awhile to chat with some of the older faces too. And hogg's SMN is a beast in Einherjar, I didn't think it could be... then I level'd smn and he showed me what he does. SMN is just ignored in this day and age =(
I think I'm just not up to date but is anyone else besides the people involved in this thing getting what happened? I have no clue.
He got kicked for being rude and abrasive to many members of the shell(The newly reformed SA), and all his friends/gf got brought down with him for contributing to the drama.
Just trying to defend people where it's due, I don't like seeing accusations coming from someone who wasn't there long enough to see if what he's saying is actually true or not. And is most likely, just bitter about being kicked.
I was in the shell for 2 months, so I assume you left more than 2 months ago.
Nothing, nor did I say anything was.Also. What's wrong with using some of the banks money to fund relics and mythics?
Again, not a problem.Aldaris has been there forever, and his SMN is his pride and joy, only natural to boost his favorite and best job.... Makes sense doesn't it? I mean as you said, he uses it for the LS quite often.
Not at all true in my experience, he goes what he wants to.. period.But he has no qualms going other jobs when the situation indeed calls for it.
As good as his SMN gear is, it'll still never compare to a buffed melee or an additional support that keeps one buffed melee alive that would have otherwise died.And hogg's SMN is a beast in Einherjar, I didn't think it could be... then I level'd smn and he showed me what he does. SMN is just ignored in this day and age =(
I got kicked for camping KA against Reaunan, everything afterwards was Ald trying to justify it when he got shit from other people:
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/152...4jugnerfor.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9...6bhaflauth.jpg
Wish I had got the whole conversation, but camping KA against a complete tool makes me no longer a team player. Nothing was ever said about anything besides KA when he kicked us. Derf had specifically given me permission to camp against Reaunan days before when he was whining about competition at bloodsucker, claiming that because he went there at 21h mark he deserved drop and we shouldn't be allowed to camp against him(not really my fault he's a dipshit and wasted 3 hours waiting when it's 24).
Oh, and just for the lulz:
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4...4hazhalmte.jpg
I'm not at all butthurt I got kicked, I just feel it was unmeritted. This whole conversation only took place because you commented on me being in Cen, but regardless I feel Censhura is a better linkshell in my limited experience with them.
LOL, you do realize what a joke tier 1 chambers are, right? And in that picture he's back casting.... who cares if he's meleeing a tier1 chamber boss for shits and giggles? Trip may not be SA, but there's no way they don't rape a tier1 chamber.
It's not about tier 1 being easy, it's the fact he's fulltiming enhancing sword and meleeing shit >.>; I like how you just ignored the other screenshots too, lol.
Edit:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/497...6rivernesi.jpg
Better? Lolmeleerdm.. not to mention he fulltimes all that gear /=
Lol.... I think your point that he likes to mess around and joke while being on RDM isn't going to go anywhere. He was probably death blossoming Ouryu for Resistance anyway even though he was having fun with it? (Yes it may not be a common strategy..)
I knew a whm a long time ago who used to KC Ouryu and help make skill chains for blms to burst on with the PLD. Might not be the norm, but you surely can't tell me you've never wanted to mess around for the hell of it? Seems like a really lame way to try to destroy credibility if you ask me..
As for the other screens, I don't know the guy in question. So how should I comment? That wouldn't be very wise of me.
One of them was Aldaris. My point is simply that you weren't there and you're assuming too much and taking Ald's word as god.. I showed up to every single event(on the jobs asked, 2boxing all the time because they were low on people) while I was in trip sans 1 limbus and 1 dynamis that coincided with my classes(and I soloed chips for the shell when I had to miss limbus!). I was never outright rude to anyone while I was there, and I was given no reason for the kick other than King Arthro. I never brought up his idiotic RDM melee or lack of gear swaps or anything ingame(though I did laugh at it with my friends on MSN, guilty). The most offensive thing I did while I was in trip was suggest better strategies when they were failing hard at easy things.. I think Aldaris knows I didn't deserve to be kicked and is simply trying to cover his ass.
I'm pretty sure as far as BG is concerned, I have far more credibility than him anyway.. but keep in mind you're the one who brought it up.
Dorp XVI: My drama penis is bigger than your drama penis
Edit: need a dorp pic, hmmm..
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZWfsMaj9TY.../CerbDrop1.jpg
FUCK YEAH CERBERUS
Hogg hasn't even mentioned him kicking you to me. I heard it from other sacks who weren't involved, as well as other regular members. I was told a good amount of times there were problems with you being abrasive and talking down to other members constantly before you were kicked, from multiple people. In the words of one Trip member on msn "If I logged on and only got 3 complaints about Dsf from people in the LS that day, it was a good day." (No, I'm not going to post the msn chatlog because even though I have it, that would be rude to the other party.) I'm just saying Aldaris is not the kind of guy with a bad temper, or otherwise bad disposition.
I am an asshole, I admit it. I used to talk down to Varsity ALL the time in SA. Do I think I'm cool for it? No, I just can't stand people with a fucking bad disposition who make everyone around them uncomfortable and upset. Did I ever get talked to because I knew more about certain things in the game SA barely touched (Very very few areas...) because I was previously in a JP shell that specialized in those aspects? No, because when I did it I did it with courteousy. There's a difference between being helpful or suggestive, and being outright rude or curt.
I have to go out for a bit now. Lol.
Abrasive and rude are different things. Saying Jet Seraweels are a waste of 200k over Errant Slops when someone asks about BLM pants is abrasive, but other people who use Jet Seraweels being offended by it are being overly sensitive. No comment I ever made in Trip was done outright to hurt anyone's feelings, solely to better the shell as a whole. Again, I was told no reason besides KA when I was kicked, and the same was done of my friends(who didn't even talk about gear in linkshell chat, I have no idea how he can claim any of them contributed to any drama). I recall a conversation comparing M.acc to Enfeebling skill with Byrthnoth that was not in the least bit offensive to ANYONE, as it was solely speculation, that ended with Ald jumping down my throat and telling me not to talk about mechanics in ls >_> When they realized they had just taken out 1/4 of their consistant members, they begged Sea and Magi to come back(the 2 people who weren't at KA..) but not Kychuli(who has never contributed to any drama, but WAS at KA camping with me), further leading me to believe that my kick was in fact due to not letting gimpshits lot on my V.Belt as they said.
If they had other problems with us that should have resulted in a kick, they should have said so when they kicked us. It's blatantly obvious Aldaris is just making excuses at this point, reinforced by their behavior toward Sea and Magi as opposed to Kych and myself.
If you're gonna melee shit on RDM, at least have a melee setup.
This Trip/Thorny/Uryuu mini drama deserves it's own thread! Has a decent backstory, screenshots and everything! I vote we move this to advance.