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  1. #21
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    With str mod, wouldn't Orc helm/Shura be better than genbu, and bahamut hose over Shura/Usukane/Hachiryu, also just use smiloden +1 for str?

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    It's 50/50 VIT/STR so Genbu's wins, I'm not sure about bahamuts hose I just use them so I get a better chance at a kick attack since I only usually get in around 10ish DKs in any given fight.

    Here's the rest of my gear

    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/attac...9_13.59.41.jpg

    TP- both are toreador's Black Tathlum and Usu body obviously
    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/attac...9_14.00.06.jpg

    AF - Need Shura pants, sometimes I use Usukane pants for giggles

    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/attac...9_14.00.58.jpg

    Chakra - the current set I'm working on

    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/attac...9_14.12.42.jpg

    PDT

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    MNK Can't wear Smilo+1.

    But yeah, Orc Helm/Shura(+1) would be better for DK then that +15 VIT you get off Genbu's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratz View Post
    MNK Can't wear Smilo+1.

    But yeah, Orc Helm/Shura(+1) would be better for DK then that +15 VIT you get off Genbu's.
    Explain.

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    Did I miss something? Kicks can proc on DK WS for more damage? >.>

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    Generally STR > Most other Stats for WS's. Other then the Obvious ones. (Asuran Vists, Etc etc.) So I can say for myself (Hume) that I stack more STR then VIT.

    However...You are Elvaan, And you get more STR then I do anyways. Sooo stacking an Equal amount of VIT might help you more? Seems you have more VIT then I do on Hume still.

    This is my Opinion however, and my DK's seem do do decent Damage with the Setup that I have now. Needa tester methinks.

    Also yeah. get shura pants. please lawlllllllllllllllllll.

  8. #28
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    gorget for asuran.

    str merits.

    chakra: power sandles, Cavalier's Mantle, another vit ring.


    things I can think of from the top of my head.

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    Yes, gorgets...I still need one for my DK set.

    laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawl...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Did I miss something? Kicks can proc on DK WS for more damage? >.>
    I'm not sure, I thought it could.

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    No, it can't. another reason to get some Shura Pants dawg.

    If it says "Kick Damage" Like Dune boots and the feets like that, then it would Up the Damage. But...thats why we have Footwork. Amiright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    chakra: power sandles, Cavalier's Mantle, another vit ring.
    Kensei sitabaki and melee cape.

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    they are quite a bit harder to obtain.

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    http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3733/monkk2.png

    1 - TP set.
    The only super amazing improvements I really feel can be made to this set are finishing my Usukane Haramaki (14/15 missing CC), and to rebuy my second Toreador's Ring which I sold to buy Dynamis currency. I've been holding out for them to make ToAU rings changeable so I could get Ulthalam's, but it's looking like they don't want to do that... ever. -.- Earring is Hollow, rings are Toreador's and Blood.

    2 - Asuran Fists
    I only really use my Monk in Salvage, and occasionally outside of Salvage, albeit rare. My food of choice is Marinara Pizza +1. This set gets consistent returns that I'm really content with. I carry around Shura Haidate to swap in for tougher mobs, but this usually does the trick for me.

    3 - Chakra
    Arguably, this set needs the most work. I never got a Genbucket back when I did sky a lot, which bit me in the ass when I decided to level MNK. My Chakra returns around 360 HP, and I just don't feel a strong will to improve this set until I can get a Kabuto (0/2 on trio'd pops since I've been trying to get it, with TH3+ both times).

    4 - Dragon Kick / Howling Fist / Ascetic's Fury
    This set is basically finished. Just needs some orchat lovin' and then it's done. Earring is Bushinomimi. Howling/Ascetic's use Usukane Sune-ate (don't have Denali Gamashes).

  15. #35
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    Acc aside 15 vit > 5-6 str for DK

    50% each
    15 * .5 * .83 = 6.225 dmg (so could be 7 but most likely to be 6)
    6 * .5 * .83 = 2.49 with chance in 1-2 dmg increase by fstr, so 5 max vs 6 minimum DMG+

  16. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kouu View Post
    http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3733/monkk2.png

    1 - TP set.
    The only super amazing improvements I really feel can be made to this set are finishing my Usukane Haramaki (14/15 missing CC), and to rebuy my second Toreador's Ring which I sold to buy Dynamis currency. I've been holding out for them to make ToAU rings changeable so I could get Ulthalam's, but it's looking like they don't want to do that... ever. -.- Earring is Hollow, rings are Toreador's and Blood.

    2 - Asuran Fists
    I only really use my Monk in Salvage, and occasionally outside of Salvage, albeit rare. My food of choice is Marinara Pizza +1. This set gets consistent returns that I'm really content with. I carry around Shura Haidate to swap in for tougher mobs, but this usually does the trick for me.
    I am at work and also color-blind, so can't tell for sure all the gear you have. However, it seems to me, assuming as I do that you have full h2h merits, that you may have more accuracy than you need, at least in salvage. If you've parsed yourself and been under 95% with that gear and food, I'd be surprised.

    Just a thought, but kudos on a well-built mnk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoldman View Post
    I'm not sure, I thought it could.
    Didn't Kick Attack+ on Bahamut Hose and Melee Hose work like DA when Footwork is up? Or did they ninja change that in some patch (if they did, prolly in the one in which they "fixed" new kick feet)? If it still does, it might work on your Footwork'd DK's?

    (As you can tell, I use footwork alot! >.>)

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    Just an aside for a few seconds.

    Asking questions over PM or even neutrally asking in the thread? That's fine.

    Throwing a shitfit at a moderator because they're doing their job? Be ready to be smacked around for a while.

    If you have an issue with a moderator's actions, then take it up with them privately, go to another moderator and ask for a second opinion (mind you, something we have to do a lot) or ask an administrator. Getting into a pissing match is not advisable.

    Now keep this thread on track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appie View Post
    Didn't Kick Attack+ on Bahamut Hose and Melee Hose work like DA when Footwork is up? Or did they ninja change that in some patch (if they did, prolly in the one in which they "fixed" new kick feet)? If it still does, it might work on your Footwork'd DK's?

    (As you can tell, I use footwork alot! >.>)
    That was my impression.

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