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    Obama: The United States is "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world"

    I never post political shit. But just lol, what the fuck.

    Source: Jihad Watch: Obama: The United States is "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jihadwatch.com

    "Obama Says U.S. Could Be Seen as a Muslim Country, Too,"

    By Jeff Zeleny for the New York Times Caucus Blog, June 2 (thanks to Randall):


    HAHN, Germany — As President Obama prepared to leave Washington to fly to the Middle East, he conducted several television and radio interviews at the White House to frame the goals for a five-day trip, including the highly-anticipated speech Thursday at Cairo University in Egypt.

    In an interview with Laura Haim on Canal Plus, a French television station, Mr. Obama noted that the United States also could be considered as “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”...

    Was that an observation or a wish?

    “What I want to do is to create a better dialogue so that the Muslim world understands more effectively how the United States, but also how the West thinks about many of these difficult issues like terrorism, like democracy, to discuss the framework for what’s happened in Iraq and Afghanistan and our outreach to Iran, and also how we view the prospects for peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians,” Mr. Obama said.

    The president said the United States and other parts of the Western world “have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam.”

    I'm all for that. And I hereby offer my services to assist in this great effort.

    “And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world,” Mr. Obama said. “And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.”...

    Here is a What-Is-Obama-Smoking? Alert:

    Indonesia: 200 million Muslims. India: 156 million Muslims. Pakistan: 150 million Muslims.

    United States: 2.3 million Muslims (according to the Pew Research Center).

    “I think the most important thing I want to tell young people is that, regardless of your faith, those who build as opposed to those who destroy I think leave a lasting legacy, not only for themselves but also for their nations,” Mr. Obama said. “And the impulse towards destruction as opposed to how can we study science and mathematics and restore the incredible scientific and knowledge — the output that came about during centuries of Islamic culture.”...
    You'd think this guy carried a teleprompter in his pocket by now.

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    Oh look, a site called jihadwatch.org shits itself when our sitting president brags about our muslim population to curry favor in the one region of the world where it would matter. Time for them to write more about how Islam is an inherently violent religion and how Muhammed was a fascist.

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    Take a step back and give it an non biased look at it through the eyes of the Arab world. I see it like this, we are having dialogue and are attempting to develop a rapport in the region.

    Many Muslim nations see us as a hate mongering, gluttonous christian society that throw our surplus and excess in the face of the world. Detach yourself from the situation and look at it from their POV. He's acknowledging we have Muslims here as well and some of us have Muslims in our families.

    Knit picking, I get that.

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    To open a Muslim dialogue, Obama visits Saudi king
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    By MARK S. SMITH, Associated Press Writer Mark S. Smith, Associated Press Writer – 30 mins ago

    RIYADH, Saudi Arabia – President Barack Obama began his latest bid to open a dialogue with the Muslim world on Wednesday by seeking the counsel of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, home to Islam's two holiest sites in Mecca and Medina.

    "The United States and Saudi Arabia have a long history of friendship. We have a strategic relationship," Obama said as he visited the monarch's desert horse farm. The U.S. president called Abdullah wise and gracious, adding: "I am confident that working together that the United States and Saudi Arabia can make progress on a whole host of issues of mutual interest."

    In turn, Abdullah expressed his "best wishes to the friendly American people who are represented by a distinguished man who deserves to be in this position."


    Earlier, the king greeted Obama at Riyadh's main airport with a ceremony when the new U.S. president arrived after an overnight flight from Washington. A band played each country's national anthem, the Saudi national guard was on hand and there was a 21-gun salute.

    Obama and Abdullah then sat together in gilded chairs, sipped cardamom-flavored Arabic coffee from small cups and chatted briefly in public before retreating to hold private talks on a range of issues.

    Saudi Arabia is a stopover en route to Cairo, where Obama is set to deliver a speech that he's been promising since last year's election campaign — aiming to set a new tone in America's often-strained dealings with the world's 1.5 billion Muslims.

    With Abdullah alongside him, Obama told reporters: "I thought it was very important to come to the place where Islam began and to seek his majesty's counsel and to discuss with him many of the issues that we confront here in the Middle East."

    In a pre-trip interview with the BBC, Obama set the tone for his swing through the Middle East, saying: "What we want to do is open a dialogue."

    "You know, there are misapprehensions about the West, on the part of the Muslim world. And, obviously, there are some big misapprehensions about the Muslim world when it comes to those of us in the West," Obama said.

    Many of those Muslims still smolder over Iraq, Guantanamo and unflinching U.S. support of Israel, but they are hoping the son of a Kenyan Muslim who lived part of his childhood in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim country, can help chart a new course.

    "You know, there are misapprehensions about the West, on the part of the Muslim world," Obama told BBC. "And, obviously, there are some big misapprehensions about the Muslim world when it comes to those of us in the West."

    Aides cautioned that Obama was not out to break new policy ground in his Cairo speech, which follows visits to Turkey and Iraq in April and a series of outreach efforts including a Persian New Year video and a student town hall in Istanbul. And they said the president is not expecting quick results, even though the speech will be distributed as widely as possible.

    "We don't expect that everything will change after one speech," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Tuesday. "I think it will take a sustained effort and that's what the president is in for."

    Officials said Obama also wouldn't flinch from difficult topics, whether it's the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts, the goal of a Palestinian state or democracy and human rights. Obama has been criticized for setting the address in Egypt, where President Hosni Mubarak has jailed dissidents and clung to power for nearly three decades.

    In Riyadh, the president was talking to Abdullah about a host of thorny problems, from Arab-Israeli peace efforts to Iran's nuclear program. The Saudis have voiced growing concern in private that an Iranian bomb could unleash a nuclear arms race in the region.

    The surge in oil prices also was on the agenda. Crude topped $68 a barrel this week, sparking fears that a fresh jump in energy costs could snuff out early sparks of a recovery from a deep global slump.

    Obama likely will be looking for help from Saudi Arabia on what to do with some 100 Yemeni detainees locked up in the Guantanamo Bay prison. Discussions over where to send the Yemeni detainees have complicated Obama's plan to close the prison. The U.S. has been hesitant to send them home because of Yemen's history of either releasing extremists or allowing them to escape from prison.

    Instead, the Obama administration has been negotiating with Saudi Arabia and Yemen for months to send them to Saudi terrorist rehabilitation centers.

    The president was to stay overnight at the king's farm outside Riyadh. Abdullah, who hosted then-President George W. Bush at the ranch in January of last year, keeps some 260 Arabian horses on its sprawling grounds in air-conditioned comfort.

    In any effort to court Muslims, the Saudis will be key — not just for their oil wealth, but by virtue of the authority they wield at the center of Arab history and culture.

    Obama's meeting with the 84-year-old Abdullah was his second in three months. The two saw each other at the G-20 summit in London, a meeting both sides called friendly and productive. Perhaps a bit too friendly: Critics accused Obama of bowing to the Saudi monarch during a photo-op. The White House maintained he was merely bending to shake hands with a shorter man.



    The Links in the OP's post sounds like it made some shit up.

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    Is 2.3 million a small number now or something? Obama was right on in mentioning that there are a sizeable number of Muslims who live and work here in peace. It's a pretty big stretch to call this any kind of mistake on his part. Yes, we get that there are countries that have much larger Muslim populations, but who cares? That's not the point of his message...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroko View Post
    Originally Posted by Jihadwatch.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephius View Post
    Is 2.3 million a small number now or something? Obama was right on in mentioning that there are a sizeable number of Muslims who live and work here in peace. It's a pretty big stretch to call this any kind of mistake on his part. Yes, we get that there are countries that have much larger Muslim populations, but who cares? That's not the point of his message...

    Exactly.

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    Are we seriously coming down to calling Obama a terrorist-mongerer because he's trying to build better relationships with other countries?

    God damn, are people that fucking retarded?

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    Is Jihadwatch a fox news kinda website? (Republicanesque fear mongerers?)

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    What Mizango said. Hes saying that to a Muslim audience in an effort to strengthen ties between them and the US.

    Besides, I wouldn't trust any information coming from a website called JihadWatch in regards to our foreign affairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik View Post
    Is Jihadwatch a fox news kinda website? (Republicanesque fear mongerers?)
    Follow the link in the bar up top, it's even worse than fox news: FrontPage Magazine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    Oh look, a site called jihadwatch.org shits itself when our sitting president brags about our muslim population to curry favor in the one region of the world where it would matter. Time for them to write more about how Islam is an inherently violent religion and how Muhammed was a fascist.
    Muhammed wasn't necessarily a fascist but by and large Islam is an inherently violent religion, as is Christianity. In fact I'd say short of some of the Asian religions most religion is pretty violent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZarakiKujata View Post
    Muhammed wasn't necessarily a fascist but by and large Islam is an inherently violent religion, as is Christianity. In fact I'd say short of some of the Asian religions most religion is pretty violent.
    Take a vicodin to numb the pain and actually read their site; they do everything short of call Muhammed the antichrist. When people call Islam 'violent' they aren't making a broad sociological statement, they are demonizing an entire faith and its followers to engender fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    Are we seriously coming down to calling Obama a terrorist-mongerer because he's trying to build better relationships with other countries?

    God damn, are people that fucking retarded?

    Republicans, yes. Tune in today to Fox and friends and listen to stupid ass Shepard Smith, Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh today and listen to the stupid shit they say about how "Talking to our enemies and Muslim countries and how opening dialogue will make us much less safer and how another 9/11 is going to happen now"

    Fear mongering at it finest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZarakiKujata View Post
    Muhammed wasn't necessarily a fascist but by and large Islam is an inherently violent religion, as is Christianity. In fact I'd say short of some of the Asian religions most religion is pretty violent.
    This is a prime example of why the world thinks America is clueless when it comes to the Muslim faith. Anyone who knows someone who reads the Quran faithfully will tell you it teaches nothing but non-aggression towards others and inner peace.

    Any religion is violent when twisted by an extremist. Stereotyping half the world's population by the actions of a handful is beyond retarded. Try learning about people before you make such idiotic statements.

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    I looked at their site and it is quite lol. The "phalanx" of youtube videos at the bottom is a great paranoia dump.

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    Its the same Fear Mongering that makes people think the only option is murder.

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    But Dim, murder isn't terrorism if you think you're preventing more murder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephius View Post
    This is a prime example of why the world thinks America is clueless when it comes to the Muslim faith. Anyone who knows someone who reads the Quran faithfully will tell you it teaches nothing but non-aggression towards others and inner peace.

    Any religion is violent when twisted by an extremist. Stereotyping half the world's population by the actions of a handful is beyond retarded. Try learning about people before you make such idiotic statements.
    this a thousand times

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    But Dim, murder isn't terrorism if you think you're preventing more murder!
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