Goodbye present - how to kill AV (before it's patched)

[Staleyx]

incoming patch.

[sruon]

internet award to whoever do the first KV MV burned.

[Auspice]

I don't know a damn thing about SCH but couldn't a COR Random Deal or Wild Card to reset the SCHs timers and go again until it's dead?

[Nevex]

You could try to setup a skillchain and magic burst for some extra damage, shouldn't be too hard if you had a pld and pretty much any other job with an elemental WS or sneak attack for perfect accuracy. Alacrity should help landing your helix in time.

Burn lands on AV doesn't it? That also makes helices do more damage. BLU/BLM could ES+Enervation or ES+Sonic Wave, no idea if those even land since there was no point in even trying until now.

[Corrderio]

Interesting idea, though the only issue I see is if AV got gay and pulled off a Benediction

[stewie]

inb4maint.

[Pawkeshup]

O.o

I knew I loved SCH, now I just love it more...

[sruon]

I don't know a damn thing about SCH but couldn't a COR Random Deal or Wild Card to reset the SCHs timers and go again until it's dead?

Watch the screenshot on top of this page, that's what they've been trying, it is possible but you'd need support to actually survive long enough to get the timing right again.

And it would leave room for AV to use random 2HRs, such as but not limited to, Benediction.

[Dowzer]

Interesting idea, though the only issue I see is if AV got gay and pulled off a Benediction

It's not an issue if the tic will do over 66k damage.

[Hanayaka]

I was honestly hoping to do more research with this before it got released/patched, but I will post what screenshots I have.

As the OP said, it is VERY difficult to land a strong enough helix. The helix needs to break roughly 125 damage to one-shot AV, with 9 modii. This requires int potions, int etudes, COR rolls, good gear, full merits, eseal, ebullience, weather, etc, etc.

Also, the formula breaks down as you apply many modii. The time remaining on Modus with fully merited scholars goes as follows:

Start: 50s (estimate)
Modus 1: 37.5
Modus 2: 28.125
Modus 3: 21.09375
Modus 4: 15.8203125
Modus 5: 11.865234375
Modus 6: 8.89892578125
Modus 7: 6.6741943359375
Modus 8: 5.005645751953125
Modus 9: 3.75423431396484375

However, I think the time remaining is floored at each step, resulting with:

Start: 50s (estimate)
Modus 1: 37
Modus 2: 27
Modus 3: 20
Modus 4: 15
Modus 5: 11
Modus 6: 8
Modus 7: 6
Modus 8: 4
Modus 9: 3

This can not be done without every scholar being fully merited. In addition, after over 30 attempts, we were never able to get it to one-shot AV. However, using 7 Modii, we obtained the following:

http://www.xzon.net/hanayaka/AV.png

Much more research has been done concerning this, but the hardest part is gathering 10 fully merited scholars (1 to cast the helix, 9 to modus). After literally, 30+++ attempts, we decided that one-shotting him is not possible. You will need to do bursts of 25% each, after locking his regen and benediction.

I wish everyone the best of luck, and hope I beat you to it.

P.S. - I'm not with OP, I had no idea other linkshells had figured this out. orz

By the way, there is no problem landing a high enough helix.

Our Scholar was SCH/BLM, fully merited helixes, non-soul-voiced int etudes, Standard Warlocks and Wizards rolls, Cream Puff, MAB>Macc>EleSkill>Int gear (had novio), and consistently landed for 125~158. That screenshot happens to be from his lowest damage helix (12x I believe), and 7 modii chunked it for 25%. This was 20 minutes after JoL popped by the way - Ranger burned JoL in 6 minutes, sacced with a level 1 while people changed jobs, and then helixed.

This was also done with only 5 Scholars, using a Corsair to Wild Card the modii so they could use it twice each. It just so happened only 7 landed before the tick.

[Destinye]

wish SE would just take the hint already - fucking obscure ass exploits are easier to discover than their gimmick

It's not an exploit..most SCHs knew MV stacked..

[Nightfyre]

Interesting idea, though the only issue I see is if AV got gay and pulled off a Benediction

Lock it first. If something goes wrong you can do multiple attempts via CORs resetting JAs.

[Ivve]

Bish! I was spamming you on MSN before posting here and you didn't reply

People must go to the pharmacy sometimes! Regardless, some questions from my LS:

Isn't this difficult or maybe not possible due to the fact that it would be hard to get 128 base on AV? (This is repeated as best I understand it; I don't know the math behind helix or SCH functions in general.)

[D44kpunk]

AV is tolerable until 59% braclets right..? instead of doing an all out SCH theory why not fight it to 65% or so and then try this?

[Corrderio]

It's not an issue if the tic will do over 66k damage.

I guess, but wouldn't you have to put them back up after Benediction? Sorry if this should be an obvious answer, but I'm clueless about SCH past 37.

EDIT: Nvm checked up on it now. I can see why CORs are very vital now for this idea.

[Demosthenes11]

It's not an exploit..most SCHs knew MV stacked..

oh yea, forgot SE intended it to be used like this sorry

[Izzy]

It's not an exploit..most SCHs knew MV stacked..

Going to quote this so when they patch it on Monday, I can find it easier to repost.

[Pikarya]

oh yea, forgot SE intended it to be used like this sorry

this

[Pawkeshup]

It's not an exploit..most SCHs knew MV stacked..

This better be sarcasm or you better be inbred. Those are the only two viable explanations.

[BerenTebogo]

This is why we don't let Destinye in on important topics.