Synergy Thread

[cdgreg]

Is there some secret I'm unaware of to getting HQ synths? Just did my last 4 byakko scraps, 45-43-45-46 / 45, and none HQ. I'm at 55 skill atm. I think I've HQed one of my 12 scraps on top of it.

Just cap your synergy before wasting your scraps.

[urat]

Is there some secret I'm unaware of to getting HQ synths? Just did my last 4 byakko scraps, 45-43-45-46 / 45, and none HQ. I'm at 55 skill atm. I think I've HQed one of my 12 scraps on top of it.

Get an exact value for 100% HQ

Always overshoot it. If you are off by an even amount, feed the element that yours is weak to to drop it in chunks of 2 until it hits exactly.

If you're off by an odd amount, do the same thing until it is 1 above, then sit and wait. Eventually the furnace will start leaking. End the synergy right after you see the leak animation.

[NynJa]

Get an exact value for 100% HQ

Always overshoot it. If you are off by an even amount, feed the element that yours is weak to to drop it in chunks of 2 until it hits exactly.

[13:01:08]Synergy crucible set. You now have claim over the synergy furnace.
[13:01:08]Please deposit your ingredients inside the furnace and initiate the synergy process within 1 minute.
[13:01:08]Please be aware that certain items are not suitable for use as synergy ingredients.
[13:01:13]Synergy rank: Apprentice
[13:01:13]Objective: 1 pair of Byakko's haidate
[13:01:13]Difficulty: <T>45
[13:01:14]Commencing synergy process.
[13:01:20]You feed the furnace 1 portion of <T> fewell.
[13:01:20]<T> elemental power climbs to 6.
[13:01:20]<T> elemental power is far off the target value.
[13:01:20]Internal pressure: 15 Pz/Im
[13:01:20]Impurity ratio: 5%
[13:01:21]Internal elemental balance:
[13:01:21]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>06 <W>-2 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:21]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>45 <W>00 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:24]The combustion rate for <T> fewell has improved slightly.
[13:01:24]You feed the furnace 1 portion of <T> fewell.
[13:01:24]<T> elemental power climbs to 13.
[13:01:24]<T> elemental power is far off the target value.
[13:01:24]Internal pressure: 28 Pz/Im
[13:01:24]Impurity ratio: 10%
[13:01:24]Internal elemental balance:
[13:01:24]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>13 <W>-4 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:24]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>45 <W>00 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:28]The combustion rate for <T> fewell has returned to normal.
[13:01:28]You feed the furnace 1 portion of <T> fewell.
[13:01:28]<T> elemental power climbs to 18.
[13:01:28]<T> elemental power is far off the target value.
[13:01:28]Internal pressure: 41 Pz/Im
[13:01:28]Impurity ratio: 15%
[13:01:28]Internal elemental balance:
[13:01:28]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>18 <W>-6 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:28]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>45 <W>00 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:31]The combustion rate for <T> fewell has improved slightly.
[13:01:31]You feed the furnace 1 portion of <T> fewell.
[13:01:31]<T> elemental power climbs to 23.
[13:01:31]<T> elemental power is far off the target value.
[13:01:31]Internal pressure: 55 Pz/Im
[13:01:31]Impurity ratio: 20%
[13:01:32]Internal elemental balance:
[13:01:32]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>23 <W>-8 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:32]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>45 <W>00 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:35]The combustion rate for <T> fewell has returned to normal.
[13:01:35]You feed the furnace 1 portion of <T> fewell.
[13:01:35]<T> elemental power climbs to 31.
[13:01:35]<T> elemental power is far off the target value.
[13:01:35]Internal pressure: 68 Pz/Im
[13:01:35]Impurity ratio: 25%
[13:01:35]Internal elemental balance:
[13:01:35]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>31 <W>-10 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:35]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>45 <W>00 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:38]The combustion rate for <T> fewell has improved slightly.
[13:01:38]You feed the furnace 1 portion of <T> fewell.
[13:01:38]<T> elemental power climbs to 37.
[13:01:38]<T> elemental power is far off the target value.
[13:01:38]Internal pressure: 81 Pz/Im
[13:01:38]Impurity ratio: 30%
[13:01:38]Internal elemental balance:
[13:01:38]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>37 <W>-12 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:38]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>45 <W>00 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:42]The combustion rate for <T> fewell has returned to normal.
[13:01:42]An elemental surge occurs!
[13:01:42]The 1 portion of <T> fewell fed causes <T> elemental power to rise to 45!
[13:01:42]<T> elemental power is perfectly aligned with the target value.
[13:01:42]Internal pressure: 95 Pz/Im
[13:01:42]Impurity ratio: 35%
[13:01:42]The synergy image has taken form!
[13:01:42]The finished product has taken form!
[13:01:42]Select End synergy now to retrieve it!
[13:01:42]Internal elemental balance:
[13:01:42]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>45 <W>-13 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:42]<F>00 <I>00 <A>00 <E>00 <T>45 <W>00 <L>00 <D>00
[13:01:47]Synergy complete!
[13:01:51]A pair of Byakko's haidate has been successfully synergized!
[13:01:51]Nynja obtains 100 ponzes of cinder.
[13:01:51]Total: 10000 Pz.

no leak, finished at 100% alignment (afaik the only elements that matter is the ones relevant to the synth)...no HQ.

[Byrthnoth]

If you look earlier in this thread, people posted their HQ rates. IIRC, even at capped skill there was a 30~50% NQ rate and something like a 10% HQ3 rate.

[cdgreg]

Get an exact value for 100% HQ

No, no, no. @ NynJa once you (or a friend) has capped synergy I was happy with results being +/- 1 of the target. At first I always tried to get 100% then realized +/-1 seemed just as good and saved a lot of time/fewell.

[NynJa]

I know, I'm just gonna cap my shit and then try some more...I was just posting that to show urat that exact value doesnt mean 100% HQ.

[Saithorx]

Just unlucky in my opinion. Every time I've turned abjurations or seals into tatters, which is about 8-10 times, I've HQ'd em.

Or maybe, I was just lucky.

[Stanislaus]

Couple questions arose after I leveled synergy to make Lucky Broth (the new BST hippogryph jug):

1. Does the related synthesis skill affect HQ rate? The destination for that train of thought is if one would care to get advanced support for that last bit of HQ rate.
2. Can one get an HQ result while the furnace is undergoing an overload? I have confirmed that you can during a leak personally (which sounds like common practice to get good alignments).
3. Has the HQ rate been modeled in terms of synth/syn skill versus HQ rates?
4. What craft-specific gloves should one go for? Sounds like Smithing for better feeds and Fishing for better thwacks both have a place, any other standouts?
5. What moon phase is best for HQ?

[dasva]

If you look earlier in this thread, people posted their HQ rates. IIRC, even at capped skill there was a 30~50% NQ rate and something like a 10% HQ3 rate.

NQ rate is much lower than that if you stay within 2 on augmenting gear recipes with capped skills. I'd say more like 10%. And yeah as far as I can tell the HQ distribution is the same as normal synths so even with 100% HQ rate HQ3 will be rare

[dasva]

Couple questions arose after I leveled synergy to make Lucky Broth (the new BST hippogryph jug):

1. Does the related synthesis skill affect HQ rate? The destination for that train of thought is if one would care to get advanced support for that last bit of HQ rate.
2. Can one get an HQ result while the furnace is undergoing an overload? I have confirmed that you can during a leak personally (which sounds like common practice to get good alignments).
3. Has the HQ rate been modeled in terms of synth/syn skill versus HQ rates?
4. What craft-specific gloves should one go for? Sounds like Smithing for better feeds and Fishing for better thwacks both have a place, any other standouts?
5. What moon phase is best for HQ?

1. No. Synergy skill and how close you are to the alignment only. Well maybe some day shit idk if anyones done testing on that though I have noticed differences in like skillups and such based on days. Could be eyeballing though
2. I have. But it's just not as likely that you happen that the feed that overloads you just happens to get you nicely in alignment
3. Not that I know of yet. Then again alot of recipes don't have the lvl caps 100% accurately listed either lol
4. From what I read there seems to be a nice bonus just for using ones with the same element as you feed. Tbh though I don't use any lol. Alot of the time using the abilities when solo is kinda a waste of time given how short they last.
5. Again don't think there is any study on this. Maybe none.

[bigbomb]

Had a few questions bothering me lately..

First of all, is the HQ rate affected at all by the impurity ratio? I usually keep it below ~25% to avoid explosions, but it had me thinking since it's "impurities" I didnt know if it was giving the craft impurities and giving it a less chance to HQ? I usually don't mess with pressure and mainly focus on getting the numbers matching as close as possible and try to not end it while its leaking or exploding if I can manage it. The other question was... I've been told that "straighter silhouette" possibly increases HQ rate, True?

If it isn't affected by impurities, should my main focus is just match the numbers and thats it? All the while keeping the impurities down to negate explosions at minimum.. (not worrying to keep it at 0%)

[cdgreg]

If it isn't affected by impurities, should my main focus is just match the numbers and thats it? All the while keeping the impurities down to negate explosions at minimum.. (not worrying to keep it at 0%)

Most seem to believe max your synergy skill, match numbers, end synergy. As for pressure, impurities and straighter silhouette this is all personal preference and from people "eyeballing" results. Maybe true, who knows, but I don't bother with it.

[Churchill]

I've got far too many HQ's in Synergy just getting a perfect alignment to worry about other bullshit

[bigbomb]

Hmm.. kk thanks for the input.

[cdgreg]

Hmm.. kk thanks for the input.

Clearly a man who wants to believe there's more to it...

[bigbomb]

Clearly a man who wants to believe there's more to it...

It just seems too simple minded for something that came from SE.. given their history..

[Churchill]

hq staves face opposing element new moon darksday

[Septimus]

hq staves face opposing element new moon darksday

Don't be silly.

Facing the weak element on full moon lightsday.

[dasva]

No no no he was talking about HQing and skilling up not success geez

[fantasticdan]

What should I use my synergy 'training' levels on? The only thing I want to do with the craft at the moment is make tatters and augment with them. I'm guessing feed fewell + safety lever + ???