Shantotto Ascension

[Ezhno]

my sam friend picked this, when it procs your ws wont drain all your tp, liek u might have 30 tp left after ws, but not more than that

Do you think you could get him to test it's effects on Dancer JAs? I was curious whether or not it will randomly reduce TP costs like Conserve MP.

[FTAJuicymama]

Do you think you could get him to test it's effects on Dancer JAs? I was curious whether or not it will randomly reduce TP costs like Conserve MP.

He has no dnc

[Reiokyu]

Hmmm, I guess this pegs me out of the fight with the current strategy listed then. Just got Monk, (Not considered oh my god awesome like sam), and Scholar (Not able to keep up with Curaga IV spam.

Will still give it an attempt whenever my schedule clears.

[Corrderio]

Monk should be fine I think

[FTAJuicymama]

To make some people life easier here are the map i made for tablets, please do not redirect them...my photobucket account has low bandwidth

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[tommygunnz]

If you wipe is it a must to get them again, i mean i know you lose them but is this is a neccessity? Im assuming so, about to do our first run and god knows i dont want to go through the fucking den again getting the items, that sucked.

[FTAJuicymama]

If you wipe is it a must to get them again, i mean i know you lose them but is this is a neccessity? Im assuming so, about to do our first run and god knows i dont want to go through the fucking den again getting the items, that sucked.

Yes you will lose everything upon enter. And will require to go back to them again.

[Tuna]

do i get shutout? I have SCH RDM and PUP 75 only.

[Tempestwolf]

Well, I have a question then. Our party cannot bring 2 WHM's, we have the ability to bring WHM RDM BRD, or maybe have the BRD go DRG/WHM. What I was thinking is we have SAM MNK BRD WHM PLD RDM, PLD holds white one off and then comes to help cure spam SAM when they skillchain.

Any suggestions?

[Midnightjade]

Any room in this fight for a BRD? MP not an issue, and DD not need SV March+Minuet at the end?

I'm thinking this strat is just the first that has been figured out. Once folks try it a few different ways it should all get a bit more relaxed as they start to understand it better.

[Narol]

Hrm, seems to be somewhat dismaying that samurai is king of the hill yet again in pretty much everything.

SAM is the new RNG. No matter the problem, throw SAMs at it until it goes away. Even if SAM is only the king hell god DD of death when well-equipped (and the number of bandwagon Shinsoku+Domaru SAMs out there is staggering), the mentality creeps in that DD is SAM or nothing, ignoring that a well-equipped WAR, MNK, DRG, DRK, etc can all do just as well if not better.

Monk should be fine I think

Thing about MNK is it's very solidly a DoT damage job. You punch things hard but unlike SAM you can't go batshit crazy and unload like hell for several thousand damage in a few seconds. Yes, Hundred Fists is 45 seconds of brutality but otherwise you're stuck taking time to kill things.

Anyway, I see shouts more or less asking for SAM SAM SAM SAM WHM WHM only, even if by the looks of it any well-geared DD will work.

[Tempestwolf]

Well, I have a question then. Our party cannot bring 2 WHM's, we have the ability to bring WHM RDM BRD, or maybe have the BRD go DRG/WHM. What I was thinking is we have SAM MNK BRD WHM PLD RDM, PLD holds white one off and then comes to help cure spam SAM when they skillchain.

Any suggestions?

Quoting myself since I page dinged!

[Nameless]

I would think that with 3 times the HP, SE eater guillotine can take a big chunk of whatever's HP out in a hurry. And now a day Drk gets TP about as fast as SAM with the proper build.

[Acorn]

A note on the ???s for the last battle...

I accidentally missed one, and can confirm that each one gives a specific buff for final fight. Also, if one person misses a ???, they and all the helpers who arent on the mission will be missing the buff ;_; we lost STR+150 on our BLU and amano SAM... ops

The 2 people who were on the mission and did get thier ??? had STR boost.

Still won though, kinda easy with 2 whm

[FTAJuicymama]

Quoting myself since I page dinged!

I agree SAM is not the only possible DD in this fight, just so happen all 6 of my members have sam so we get to juggle jobs alot easier.

A few bg members asked me which DD work and in my opinion WAR DRG MNK DRK will be fine, just remember to bring Icaus wings.

Now to the healer issue, you really have to remember shanttoto AOE JA is not just hitting 1 DD, and whm is the best job that has the best possible curaga in game.

Her AOE deals devasting dmg constantly every 10 secs too.

When i did it rdm whm it wasnt enough to cure spams the 4 DD that were being hit.

Now to bring a brd or not, your judgment call. Songs will help DDs for sure.

Tanking/kiting the 1st extra shanttoto wise, please dont bother bring a nin or pld, they are just useless in this bc. Any normal DD /nin can hold the white shanttoto easily.

[Tuna]

well i guess i should ask more like....should i come sch, replacing the 2nd whm and try to cure spam with 2 hour and accession

or...

rdm/whm to hold white shantotto while party kills dark then chainspell curaga2 during white shan fight...while still having 2 whms

or...

rdm/drk to do the same then chainspell stun white shant when the party fights her? while still having 2 whms

not sure if chainspell would do any good if the spells are insta cast anyway.....

[FTAJuicymama]

A note on the ???s for the last battle...

I accidentally missed one, and can confirm that each one gives a specific buff for final fight. Also, if one person misses a ???, they and all the helpers who arent on the mission will be missing the buff ;_; we lost STR+150 on our BLU and amano SAM... ops

The 2 people who were on the mission and did get thier ??? had STR boost.

Still won though, kinda easy with 2 whm

Hurray now you can help provide info too =D

[Acorn]

Btw we won with:

WHM WHM BLU/NIN BLU/NIN SAM/WAR(relic) PLD/NIN
SAM and 1 BLU with -150 STR

[tommygunnz]

About to enter as

Brd/whm
Mnk/nin
Sam/nin
Sam/nin

Whm/nin
Whm/sch

Will report back in an hour or so, you fuckers got us nervous as shit with all the talk about how hard this fight can be/and not wanting to get the tablets again.

[Pergo]

we brought bard last night and i thought it was useless. whm's mp wasn't the issue, it was keeping up with cures during the ws spam. march would be effective, but other songs were kinda meh since you have such a significant stat boost anyways.

Quoting myself since I page dinged!

i can go whm, think pld should be placed with another dd actually