Salvage Drop III: No drop? Suck Less

[DAKPluto]

Assuming you're rational beings, it's obvious this is for Salvage drops only! The other thread was 95% Salvage stuff, so it has its own home now. In ur thread 35ing ur wuts!

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/63261...more-banz.html

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72973

[Raen Ryong]

Very nice title. Only thing which could potentially improve it would be a (tm) symbol at the end of less!

[mdkuser]

or umad(tm)

[FailureMidgard]

or umad(tm)

YouStillNeverGaveMeAParseOfYourPachipachio™

[pchan]

YouStillNeverGaveMeAParseOfYourPachipachio™

youstillnevergavethedmg/minuteofyoursamonabosswithaparse™

[isladar]

Calling dibs on Random Fail, then.

[Sin Harvest]

Less yackin more salvage.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/793...1113112524.jpg

[FailureMidgard]

youstillnevergavethedmg/minuteofyoursamonabosswithaparse™

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...n/parse-BR.jpg
mnk/nin,sam/nin,brd,rdm,whm,thf

http://www.magitek.org/ac.jpg

Sam, Thf, Sam. 2nd Sam was WS only (don't recall why, was a long time ago). I'll assume you're competent enough to do 91.36*60. 0 counters, was tanking 100% of the time, and was sitting in full PDT whenever Third Eye fell off. Then again, I have a relic, so who cares right? Oh ya, we killed it faster than you, and I was getting stunned by MR too~

Can I have my parse of Mdk with a Pachipachio now so I can show you why your math claiming it's better than Hagun is incorrect?

[mdkuser]

huh I sent them when you gave me your email...

[pchan]

http://www.magitek.org/ac.jpg

Sam, Thf, Sam. 2nd Sam was WS only (don't recall why, was a long time ago). I'll assume you're competent enough to do 91.36*60. 0 counters, was tanking 100% of the time, and was sitting in full PDT whenever Third Eye fell off. Then again, I have a relic, so who cares right? Oh ya, we killed it faster than you, and I was getting stunned by MR too~

Can I have my parse of Mdk with a Pachipachio now so I can show you why your math claiming it's better than Hagun is incorrect?

I asked the question 1 year+ ago, and you waited to have a relic to post it. interesting !

[FailureMidgard]

huh I sent them when you gave me your email...

I never got it then, maybe it got blocked by a spam filter? Can you resend it?

I asked the question 1 year+ ago, and you waited to have a relic to post it. interesting !

8 months ago, and you're the one that brought it back up now...I don't have parses from back then (KParser wasn't working, and DirectParse didn't have that many detailed stats...furthermore, I had some bug with directparse that once I closed it, I couldn't reopen a saved parse), I didn't even have that good of gear back then (didn't even have Byakko's I don't think), and as I said then, I have nothing to prove to you. I did the math on SSR chariot, I timed a fucking SSR chariot, and you didn't accept it. You didn't even argue, just "lol proof or it didn't happen". Kinda like what people said to your int testing. You've given no more evidence that what you posted there is true, than I did 8 months ago, yet you expect us to believe you? I could tell you like 10 other things that went wrong with that parse (it's actually a month old, we've hardly gone to salvage recently) including me using the wrong gorget because it was literally the same day or day after I got Amano, and I thought Light gorget would work. Also, do you realize how much damage I lose switching to full PDT? Honestly, I did about the same damage, if not more before, because my co-tank could get hate off me whenever I took 1-2 hits before hitting hate cap (we won't mention than Kaiten barely beats out Gekko on chariots without SoulVoice). And as you said in some post, the amount of time you can comfortably ride hate cap (not under 20%, not early on), is pretty small.

[pchan]

I never got it then, maybe it got blocked by a spam filter? Can you resend it?



8 months ago, and you're the one that brought it back up now...I don't have parses from back then (KParser wasn't working, and DirectParse didn't have stats), I didn't even have that good of gear back then (didn't even have Byakko's I don't think), and as I said then, I have nothing to prove to you. I did the math on SSR chariot, I timed a fucking SSR chariot, and you didn't accept it. You didn't even argue, just "lol proof or it didn't happen". Kinda like what people said to your int testing. You've given no more evidence that what you posted there is true, than I did 8 months ago, yet you expect us to believe you? I could tell you like 10 other things that went wrong with that parse (it's actually a month old, we've hardly gone to salvage recently) including me using the wrong gorget because it was literally the same day or day after I got Amano, and I thought Light gorget would work. Also, do you realize how much damage I lose switching to full PDT? Honestly, I did about the same damage, if not more before, because my co-tank could get hate off me whenever I took 1-2 hits before hitting hate cap (we won't mention than Kaiten barely beats out Gekko on chariots without SoulVoice). And as you said in some post, the amount of time you can comfortably ride hate cap (not under 20%, not early on), is pretty small.

Hey, I never contested relics to be superior than destroyers. What I contested is you saying more or less that a SAM/WAR ridiculizing a mnk/nin without you backing up anything beside quick maths (eyeballing etc) on a boss where damage/minutes means shit because it charms 3x regardless. So I find it hilarous that you throw a "parse or it didn't happen" at mdk when you are the one not justifying your claims.

[Genrye]

MNK AND SAM LUL

Where are the war/sam tanks?

And the drg/sam tanks?
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[FailureMidgard]

Hey, I never contested relics to be superior than destroyers. What I contested is you saying more or less that a SAM/WAR ridiculizing a mnk/nin without you backing up anything beside quick maths (eyeballing etc) on a boss where damage/minutes means shit because it charms 3x regardless. So I find it hilarous that you throw a "parse or it didn't happen" at mdk when you are the one not justifying your claims.

Huh? My entire point of SSR chariot was breaking the dmg/minute down into 4 separate blocks of time. Due to your lack of understanding of the English language, however, you were unable to grasp this. I agree overall damage/minute is pretty meaningless there since you are charmed for over 25% of the fight.
Finally, I'm not asking for a parse of Mdk to say it didn't happen, I'm asking for it to show you that all the math that you did to "prove" Pachi>Hagun will NOT be modeled in the parse. I'm not trying to say Mdk isn't a good player, I'm not trying to say that you aren't a good player. The only thing I am contesting is your grasp on the reality that surrounds the math that you try to do on these forums. It's come up time after time after time where you make all sorts of assumptions that are NOT TRUE and base your math around it. Same thing happened in that thread where a monk claimed 65/25/10, which you promptly changed to 65/35, even though 65/35 was basically impossible with the numbers you gave, then you give "suck less" as the reason as to why you made the change.
Math is without a doubt correct, and people shouldn't try to parse 5str vs 4str1attk, because you will never see the difference in the parse. That being said, you -should- use a collection of parses to get playstyle statistics such as WS/TP ratio, which you then use in your math.

[Clerix]

Seriously now, seriously?

[DAKPluto]

Calling dibs on Random Fail, then.

It's yours

[Kuishen]

I approve of the title, not that anybody cares. It was leagues ahead of mine, I still have much to learn on the ways of BG.

o.o

Also lol@above argument.

[TheTaru]

You're all so ridiculizing.

[Klutz]

You're all so ridiculizing.

I see what you did there.

[EternalSnow]

I got morri robe 35 last week! SO happy ;;
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