Ex-Perserverance, Dioma

[Iremire]

Like failure said it's usually the people on the outside saying that the leaders is stealing gil/using the ls, and those people are also the members of those shells that make 30m a month as opposed to shells like the ones stated that make 100m a week.

Just saying, you can't know what's going on inside of a shell when you aren't in the shell.

[QuePsiXI]

Yea, clearly the best way to get #1 overall is to jump servers when you have a shell you can "zomg abuse" and use it to pump out relics for you. You sir are a fucking bastion of logic and reasoning.



Fuck ya, every person in the FFXI community that has had 4 relics has been a huge server hopper and shell jumper. Fucking Stan jumped across like 6 servers and 11 shells. Poor people in Apathy being used by Stan even as we speak. Minidragon was even worse than that. And we won't even get into the others, they make Stan and Minidragon look tame.
Wait what is that? You can't actually name a single person with 4 relics that's done that? Oh, ok then.



Self-absorbed much? He was clearly fucking out to get you dude. Couldn't let you sit at #1. That's why according to his AH profile, with a Maat's cap, he has 6 75s. Clearly for the AH ranking points. I mean, why level them all to 75 when you get tons of AH points for that? Definitely saving them for next time you completed a relic so he could leapfrog past you.
Here's an idea:
1. He wanted a Maat's cap.
2. He had a lot of time, and motivation, so he ground the fuck out of it to accomplish his goal.
3. He completed his goal, was burned out on burning (haha), and so he stopped.
I know this is some fucking bleeding edge thinking here, I don't expect most people to come up with this kind of amazing logic, so I'll forgive you this time. You can keep your title as "The Bastion of Logic and Reasoning" since this was so far out there, couldn't expect you to think of it on your own.



That's because you were retarded. Maybe get some proof, and then you'd have a point, but the fact of the matter is, I've never heard a person from any of those shells every complain or say it was true, and I've heard non leaders from many of those shells say the opposite. I know in my shell right now, I made (along with 11 others) ~25mil from attending events alone in the month of Feb. May I ask how 3-4 relics is abusing a shell when people can pull in that kind of money? The thing is, it's all a matter of scope. Half the people accusing others of this are in shells that pull in 30mil a month. Sorry, I don't really want to bash you - play the game how you want, but that isn't impressive, and isn't much gil. I guarantee you just as many leaders from those shells skim/steal/cheat, but when they do, they come out with an extra salvage body at best after 3 months.



Obviously there were brainwashed by Satan, come on man, how can you even suggest people being happy? Fuck off.



Any proof? From the outside, it honestly looks like you do the same with your shell, if you care. I don't actually believe it necessarily, because I realize that an outsider's perspective is pretty stupid, but I guarantee you I've heard the accusations about you, and I can completely see where people are coming from.



This too, I dunno how Pers did it, or how Apathy does it even, but if our shell continues for a year, anyone who's making tier1 payouts can easily expect 2, possibly 3 relics per year. Shockingly enough, most our leaders are making tier1 payouts. Who'd have thought that when we promote new people to leadership, we get active members? It's crazy.

/golfclap
Ladies and gentlemen, this thread's "The Takeover."

[tommygunnz]

How does changing servers get you more achievement points exactly? Stealing the bank, sure, but changing servers would do nothing for that.

Someone should have seen this one coming. Pers had what, 7 relic/mythics? And Dioma had 4? Sounds obvious to me.

Just another Wopa

[AidenCarby]

Didn't most of Apathy jump to shiva anyways?

[Bukadan]

All I'm saying is that I wish a few certain people would text me. Right now.

[Sirlancelot]

ha, told you so.

[FailureMidgard]

ha, told you so.

Hi, welcome back to BG, we've missed you since the last time you came here to bash Dioma, and we'll most definitely miss you again after this thread gets locked in a few days and you disappear again.

[Titanss]

He's viewing the thread .. say something bitch

[Ratatapa]

I see Mikyy!

WAFFLE!

[Iremire]

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6...0308033311.png

Now who could that be?

[Kipling]

I didn't know you were on Remora too, Ire!

[Therin]

Fuck ya, every person in the FFXI community that has had 4 relics has been a huge server hopper and shell jumper. Fucking Stan jumped across like 6 servers and 11 shells. Poor people in Apathy being used by Stan even as we speak. Minidragon was even worse than that. And we won't even get into the others, they make Stan and Minidragon look tame.
Wait what is that? You can't actually name a single person with 4 relics that's done that? Oh, ok then.

Has nothing to do with how many relics he has. Has everything to do with the fact that he has 4 relics when his shell has a grand total of 7 and he accrued them all while leading said shell. The fact that he got past 2 without being questioned on this is mind-boggling.

Any proof? From the outside, it honestly looks like you do the same with your shell, if you care. I don't actually believe it necessarily, because I realize that an outsider's perspective is pretty stupid, but I guarantee you I've heard the accusations about you, and I can completely see where people are coming from.

Proof? 4 relics out of 7. How many were self-funded? Where was he getting his gil, aside from skimming off the top? Crafting? Sure. I realize you're arguing for the sake of arguing, but normally when people do that, they pick good arguments.

For the record, my relic was completely self-funded (though I did receive LS discounts - not the same as just stealing gil, as Wopa and Dioma did!).

Glad to know you've done a 180 from being "all about promoting friendship between linkshells" to throwing out accusations. Mood swing much?

Sorry you recruited a thief. But hey, I guess that's no different from how it was when Chopchop was in charge, is it? Hell, back then you guys might as well have been recruiting straight off of EGS. So much for trying to "make Volume a new, better shell." I guess that was just smoke that you were blowing up the ass of everyone else on Phoenix to win their good graces.

[Iremire]

I didn't know you were on Remora too, Ire!

Oh yea man, for like 9 months. I came just to visit you

[Kipling]

Oh yea man, for like 9 months. I came just to visit you

:3 <3

[Titanss]

If he is in Volume then he is with good peoples .. can't be hatin

[FailureMidgard]

Has nothing to do with how many relics he has. Has everything to do with the fact that he has 4 relics when his shell has a grand total of 7 and he accrued them all while leading said shell. The fact that he got past 2 without being questioned on this is mind-boggling.

2 were self funded, also, some friends of his quit the game and gave him their account/wealth. I've inherited gil from a friend in the past on Midgard, it's not exactly unheard of. Are you aware of this? Are you aware of anything outside of your shell? My entire point is you have no fucking clue what happened, you're looking at 1 random statistic and trying to draw all sorts of nonexistent conclusions from it.

Proof? 4 relics out of 7. How many were self-funded? The guy has no crafts. Where was he getting his gil, aside from skimming off the top? I realize you're arguing for the sake of arguing, but normally when people do that, they pick good arguments.

Fucking seriously? This right here is exactly why you and others are full of bullshit. No crafts? That's your fucking argument? Well, start off by checking his AH page, I'll link it for you:
http://www.ffxiah.com/player.php?id=859406
Wow, what do you, know, a 100 craft. Past that, what the fuck does a craft matter. I self funded the first 4 stages of my Amano, full salvage set, etc...all before getting the payouts from Volume that I mentioned. I have a 100 craft now, I made 2 Dusk+1 pieces from it, neither of which I sold, and have made 0 gil past that from crafting. Even if he didn't have a 100 craft, how the fuck does that matter? Crafting is just another alternative to make gil, it's really no better or worse than tons of other options out there. The best gil/hr that I've seen, in this entire game, is farming fucking Soul Plates.

For the record, my relic was completely self-funded (though I did receive LS discounts - not the same as just stealing gil, as Wopa and Dioma did!).

LS discounts, sponsoring dynamis runs, but we'll call it "self funded". The rest was just using and stealing from friends. Oh yea, and "stealing" or "abusing" your girlfriend and not giving her a split from your Antlion ENM too? Really, I don't care, it's not that bad, it's a fucking friend helping you out...check it out, Dioma had the same.

Glad to know you've done a 180 from being "all about promoting friendship between linkshells" to throwing out accusations. Mood swing much?

No, first off, learn to read:

Any proof? From the outside, it honestly looks like you do the same with your shell, if you care. I don't actually believe it necessarily, because I realize that an outsider's perspective is pretty stupid, but I guarantee you I've heard the accusations about you, and I can completely see where people are coming from.

I did not accuse you, I said I've heard others accuse you. Past that, I'm trying to make people realize how stupid the shit they are saying here is. When I transferred to Phoenix, I was accused for being an account buyer time and time again. It's just stupid bullshit, and it's all baseless accusations. YOU are the one throwing out accusations, not me.

Sorry you recruited a thief. But hey, I guess that's no different from how it was when Chopchop was in charge, is it? Hell, back then you guys might as well have been recruiting straight off of EGS back then. So much for trying to "make Volume a new, better shell." I guess that was just smoke that you were blowing up the ass of everyone else on Phoenix to win their good graces.

Give me proof he's a thief. I talked to him on vent for quite a few hours before he transferred. Want to know what he did the hour before he transferred? He fucking gave out bank splits. He isn't even posting here 'cause it's going to be stupid bullshit flaming, but tell me - why the fuck would he give out bank splits 1 goddamn hour before transferring if he's just a huge thief?
As I said on DB - I value logic. People flaming Dioma right now have none, look at my post from as unbiased of a point of view as you can. Tell me how anything I replied to was more logical than my reply - it wasn't. I'm defending a guy who's getting ripped to shreds for being in the spotlight - because that's exactly what is happening.
In that last thread, people bring up "losing 1/4th their split for XYZ shitty item". Guess what, people lost 1/4th their split (which was what, 1mil gil) to get Ancient Torques too. But let's ignore that, let's just focus on the negative.
I'm not "blowing smoke up people's asses". We've honored the calendar since I said we would, we've had a zone stolen from us even. I never once agreed to sitting back and watching someone take a beating because other people are jealous or don't like the guy. Get some facts, get some proof, and maybe I'll admit I'm wrong. Otherwise, I've heard Dioma's side, and when I was a 3rd party in the situation (before making a decision on if we'd take him), his side sounded far far more reasonable than the bullshit from the last thread (and this one too).

[Kipling]

I'm not "blowing smoke up people's asses".

You can blow smoke up my ass, qt.

[Cleverness]

Rapes with words

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9986/1265585678204.jpg

[Seyrr]

As I said on DB - I value logic. People flaming Dioma right now have none

Can't really speak to the other things that he has been accused of... but he jacked Dynamises a lot. Our shell is one of the major Dynamis shells on Gilgamesh, and we post a schedule well over a month in advance. With a few exceptions (where we are forced into a last minute change), we stick to it, and Dioma had indicated that he knew of our schedule and read it. But he still managed to block us from quite a few Northlands runs.

He also monopolized Korroloka Tunnel, and refused to take turns with others who wanted to do an Astralburn. Every other group I've ever dealt with was willing to trade off, but with Dioma, no one else got the tunnel until he was done for the day.

I tried to be polite with him, and he was certainly polite with me, but he didn't show much consideration for others.

Is that logic sufficiently strong for you, Mr. Edgeworth?

[S N K]

Can't really speak to the other things that he has been accused of... but he jacked Dynamises a lot. Our shell is one of the major Dynamis shells on Gilgamesh, and we post a schedule well over a month in advance. With a few exceptions (where we are forced into a last minute change), we stick to it, and Dioma had indicated that he knew of our schedule and read it. But he still managed to block us from quite a few Northlands runs.

He also monopolized Korroloka Tunnel, and refused to take turns with others who wanted to do an Astralburn. Every other group I've ever dealt with was willing to trade off, but with Dioma, no one else got the tunnel until he was done for the day.

I tried to be polite with him, and he was certainly polite with me, but he didn't show much consideration for others.

Is that logic sufficiently strong for you, Mr. Edgeworth?

Because exping the normal way is so hard to lazy people amirite?