Ex-Perserverance, Dioma

[Therin]

2 were self funded, also, some friends of his quit the game and gave him their account/wealth. I've inherited gil from a friend in the past on Midgard, it's not exactly unheard of. Are you aware of this? Are you aware of anything outside of your shell? My entire point is you have no fucking clue what happened, you're looking at 1 random statistic and trying to draw all sorts of nonexistent conclusions from it.

The burden of proof is on the LS leader with 4 relics. If you show up with $50M randomly, do you think people are going to assume your friends gave that money to you? Nope, they're going to wonder if you won the lottery or robbed a bank. If you want to argue that it's none of my business whether he did or not, that would be more reasonable.

Fucking seriously?

Yes, I realized after posting that he does in fact have 100 Clothcraft, hence why I edited my post. My bad, I fucked up. Doesn't change much though - you have a relic, and therefore should realize how much gil it takes. Can you fund 4 relics off of a craft in that short of a span? No, you can't. It took me a year and I spent about 60M total - half of what one relic would cost at market value.

LS discounts, sponsoring dynamis runs, but we'll call it "self funded". The rest was just using and stealing from friends. Oh yea, and "stealing" or "abusing" your girlfriend and not giving her a split from your Antlion ENM too?

Every time we got a drop, I tried to make her take a cut, but she refused time and time again.

Dioma had the same.

Not doubting that. A relic is reasonable. Two relics is somewhat reasonable. Three and a mythic in less than two years, while holding the LS bank, is not. Sorry pal. That's over 500M gil, and there's no goddamn way he made that from Clothcraft or standard LS payouts in that short of a span.

Maybe he wasn't stealing money from the bank. Maybe he was buying it. Who knows, but does it matter? If he did either one of these things, he's been cheating the system.

As I said on DB - I value logic.

And that's why you recruit well-known, high-profile, risky people without background checks. . Sure, I believe you.

As for proof, all you need is a Perseverance member (not one that's in Volume with you now, obviously) to come on the thread and tell us where their bank is. If it's still sitting on Gilgamesh, I'll eat my words gladly. Or, if he can show transaction history for the hundreds of millions of gil that they've surely made, that'd be fine too. But I'm not going to wait for that for too long.

The difference between this guy and Stanislav is that Excellence has 48 relics. Similarly, Apathy has 24. For these two linkshells, Dioma's accomplishment would hardly be questionable. But Perseverance has had 7. So you can see why we're skeptical that it was legit. As I said, if he can prove that, I'd love to eat my words.

[Izzy]

Oh yea, and "stealing" or "abusing" your girlfriend and not giving her a split from your Antlion ENM too?

Fucking called it last year.

Jesus CHRIST I'm psychic.

[liggy 0]

Because exping the normal way is so hard to lazy people amirite?

how else are you suppose to go to sleep and wake up with 75k exp

[Izzy]

Oh, and when Radav quit, he gave me 35 million gil. When the core BC members that didn't suck quit, they gave Carmisse all their gil. Inheriting gil is not unheard of, and is actually how I mainly funded my relic lol.

[Titanss]

Your point at the end is kinda bullshit guy, Wopacompany had shit load of relics and you're calling that ls leader a thf.. kinda contradicting yourself a bit

[Therin]

Your point at the end is kinda bullshit guy, Wopacompany had shit load of relics and you're calling that ls leader a thf.. kinda contradicting yourself a bit

Did they? Because FFXIAH lists 10 and Wopa had 5 of them. I wasn't aware they had more than that (it's possible, obviously not every relic is posted on FFXIAH).

Oh, and when Radav quit, he gave me 35 million gil. When the core BC members that didn't suck quit, they gave Carmisse all their gil. Inheriting gil is not unheard of, and is actually how I mainly funded my relic lol.

This is why I said that finishing one or two in a short span is reasonable, but you'd have to have a shit load of ridiculously rich friends to get 4 handed to you.

Also, stop playing WoW and start coming back to Dynamis. I don't get yelled at enough anymore.

[Izzy]

I'm most upset that you lied to me about Diana even though I straight up asked you about it like 30 times!

You're transparent like jellyfish~

[Therin]

You're transparent like jellyfish~

You asked me like a year ago. Shit changes bro.

[Izzy]

Oh don't even play that card lol. You were interested from day one.

[Titanss]

You say Apathy has 24 relics and 2 members made up 10+ relics but they are ok right?

I'm just trying to see what you are getting at here..

[Sage]

I find it funny how people still think he's a good guy. He RMT gill when he quit the first time made a nice amount of RL money for the stuff he stole from 2 accounts that he could log into but they where not his. Comes back under a new name makes a shell bought the gill back he sold to get 1 not 2 but 1 relic which was shield. He's always been good sweet talking people but guess what happen the shit heads gone he screwed 3 of my friends out of there gill but all in all we are better off without him you can have him and all his lie's. Good bye Xerxes or Dioma or whatever you want to call yourself now days. You screwed more people then Bill Clinton will never have a chance to.

and for all you saying troll troll since it's my first post but never wanted to post here but for this one person it is worth it.

Good bye wish you did this 2-3 years ago the server is better off without you.

[Ratatapa]

The burden of proof is on the LS leader with 4 relics. If you show up with $50M randomly, do you think people are going to assume your friends gave that money to you? Nope, they're going to wonder if you won the lottery or robbed a bank. If you want to argue that it's none of my business whether he did or not, that would be more reasonable.



Yes, I realized after posting that he does in fact have 100 Clothcraft, hence why I edited my post. My bad, I fucked up. Doesn't change much though - you have a relic, and therefore should realize how much gil it takes. Can you fund 4 relics off of a craft in that short of a span? No, you can't. It took me a year and I spent about 60M total - half of what one relic would cost at market value.




Every time we got a drop, I tried to make her take a cut, but she refused time and time again.



Not doubting that. A relic is reasonable. Two relics is somewhat reasonable. Three and a mythic in less than two years, while holding the LS bank, is not. Sorry pal. That's over 500M gil, and there's no goddamn way he made that from Clothcraft or standard LS payouts in that short of a span.

Maybe he wasn't stealing money from the bank. Maybe he was buying it. Who knows, but does it matter? If he did either one of these things, he's been cheating the system.



And that's why you recruit well-known, high-profile, risky people without background checks. . Sure, I believe you.

As for proof, all you need is a Perseverance member (not one that's in Volume with you now, obviously) to come on the thread and tell us where their bank is. If it's still sitting on Gilgamesh, I'll eat my words gladly. Or, if he can show transaction history for the hundreds of millions of gil that they've surely made, that'd be fine too. But I'm not going to wait for that for too long.

The difference between this guy and Stanislav is that Excellence has 48 relics. Similarly, Apathy has 24. For these two linkshells, Dioma's accomplishment would hardly be questionable. But Perseverance has had 7. So you can see why we're skeptical that it was legit. As I said, if he can prove that, I'd love to eat my words.

for beeing in Dioma LS even for 3 months, he was making the gil somewhat legit

His system was simple you get pts for attendance, and more pts you had more gil you were doing. Also if you took items you would get less points.

So after each month i was getting like 1mill for like 70% attendance, while he was getting 0 items but alot of attendance. so he was getting mad points so mad gil.

[Therin]

You say Apathy has 24 relics and 2 members made up 10+ relics but they are ok right?

I'm just trying to see what you are getting at here..

http://www.ffxiah.com/relics.php?ls=1169&dt=7

Taking out TFX and Narse (since I believe these two may have bank access, but again, I'm not in Apathy so this is just a guess) leaves you with 17 relics between 10 people. Also, as Uryuu said, Papy never even had access to the bank so he couldn't possibly be taking gil from it.

It makes sense for leaders to get more relics than regular members because they, by nature, have to attend more. Like Ratatapa said in the post above this one, it's reasonable to think that he'd be making a shit load of gil. Though I still have trouble believing it was enough to make 4 relics.

[Sumiko]

wait wait, let me get this straight.

You guys in Dioma's shell are completely okay with him doing this?

Or are some of you not from his shell and just speaking your mind? I don't know who's who cause I don't even know who's in Dioma's shell, but the news of this boggled my mind.

From an outsider perspective, I'm under the impression he just took an entire linkshell's bank and hopped servers just to self-serve himself... Am I wrong on the facts? It came as a surprise for me since so many people defended Dioma in the thread that Nynja made a while back saying how great a leader he is...

[Therin]

Or are some of you not from his shell and just speaking your mind? I don't know who's who cause I don't even know who's in Dioma's shell, but the news of this boggled my mind.

Most of the people posting here and defending Dioma are in the shell that he migrated to, not the shell that he left.

[Sumiko]

Most of the people posting here and defending Dioma are in the shell that he migrated to, not the shell that he left.

Ahhhhhh, okay. Thanks for clearing that up!

[Ratatapa]

Most of the people posting here and defending Dioma are in the shell that he migrated to, not the shell that he left.

No i was in the shell on gilgamesh with him before i left

I left because i didn't like the guy but i liked the leader.


Yes he made a lot of gil, but he paid the people who did the stuff like they deserved.

So if what failure said is true he did not steal

[Dominico]

Wow, I could clean this whole clusterfuck up in about 3 minutes since I was in the shell when it all happened. Eh, I'll let Bech decide if he wants me to or not (JUST BECAUSE YOU CHANGED SERVERS DON'T MEAN YOU DON'T OWE ME A FULL LENGTH ALBUM FUCKER). And for those wondering, Bechyni is the only person who has posted in this thread so far that was a current Pers member.

[Titanss]

I see you point but just a quick example of someone you left out- Minidragon. His ls hardly had any relics yet he had 6

Not really fair to group Wopa in with being a thf and not him then by your perspective

[FailureMidgard]

Can't really speak to the other things that he has been accused of... but he jacked Dynamises a lot. Our shell is one of the major Dynamis shells on Gilgamesh, and we post a schedule well over a month in advance. With a few exceptions (where we are forced into a last minute change), we stick to it, and Dioma had indicated that he knew of our schedule and read it. But he still managed to block us from quite a few Northlands runs.

We used to not follow the schedule - I honestly feel Dynamis schedules are a subpar "patch" way to go about trying to do things. I do feel being courteous is good, but Dynamis schedules add a new way to be an asshole...rather than trade glass first, it's who signs up first. Then you can push the limits of what the rules allow on Xarc, etc. I had this whole discussion on Phoenix, we are now working with the calendar - but I still feel it is a subpar way to go about things. I see nothing wrong with a shell not wanting to follow it, at all.

He also monopolized Korroloka Tunnel, and refused to take turns with others who wanted to do an Astralburn. Every other group I've ever dealt with was willing to trade off, but with Dioma, no one else got the tunnel until he was done for the day.

Honestly, if you want to rotate in Korroloka tunnel, just go do a normal Exp party, 'cause a: most other groups suck and take forever, and b: even if they don't, rotating means you aren't getting better exp than ERonfaure really.

The burden of proof is on the LS leader with 4 relics. If you show up with $50M randomly, do you think people are going to assume your friends gave that money to you? Nope, they're going to wonder if you won the lottery or robbed a bank. If you want to argue that it's none of my business whether he did or not, that would be more reasonable.

No, that's stupid. You need at least a small amount of proof before you can even begin to get into that. We don't need everyone who posts a 2nd or 3rd relic in the relic thread here to keep a detailed log of every penny they made for it, that's fucking stupid. If some member tracks gil earned, and realizes it doesn't add up to gil spent, THEN the burden of proof is on the person to prove they didn't steal it or whatever.

Yes, I realized after posting that he does in fact have 100 Clothcraft, hence why I edited my post. My bad, I fucked up. Doesn't change much though - you have a relic, and therefore should realize how much gil it takes. Can you fund 4 relics off of a craft in that short of a span? No, you can't. It took me a year and I spent about 60M total - half of what one relic would cost at market value.

You realize the apparently had the same relic process as Volume atm? Do 4 stages, shell does 5. Also, of the 3 other relics, I think all of them quit Pers? Also, his mythic was self funded (and cheaper than relics, btw), as was 1 other relic I believe?
Also, I earned ~60mil for my relic in <3 months. I have no fucking clue how it took you a year to earn that. Mine was done off Mining, ISNM, KS/BS seals, ENMs (3 times per 5 days), reselling currency, sky triggers, and some other misc. stuff. 60M (which is around what it takes people who get the last stage done by LS) in 1 year is -insanely- slow.

Every time we got a drop, I tried to make her take a cut, but she refused time and time again.

Wanna bet if Dioma could, he'd rather have his friends not quit and have 1 less relic? I'd be willing to bet that's the case. Oh well, you both benefited from friends, it shouldn't be the huge crime YOU are trying to make it out to be.

Not doubting that. A relic is reasonable. Two relics is somewhat reasonable. Three and a mythic in less than two years, while holding the LS bank, is not. Sorry pal. That's over 500M gil, and there's no goddamn way he made that from Clothcraft or standard LS payouts in that short of a span.

Maybe he wasn't stealing money from the bank. Maybe he was buying it. Who knows, but does it matter? If he did either one of these things, he's been cheating the system.

In Volume, I made 25mil in 1 month from payouts alone. Past that I made at least another 6-10mil from ZNM drops (Got lucky on Hachiryu Kote on my Tyger), KS99, Camping D1-3 Behe, 10% finder fee (our shell gives 10% of any sale to the member that brings the buyer to us), ABCs, selling extra Soul Plates, etc. This is all from LS events. Before transferring to Phoenix, I made 60mil in just under 3 months without even trying that hard. Gil isn't that hard to make. If I wanted to sit down and make gil for 2 years, I'd guess I could make in the region of 600mil without hardly trying. Just because you don't make that gil really doesn't mean other people can't. Add to that the fact the LS paid for 100m of each of his relics...could probably fund 7-10 relics in that time.

And that's why you recruit well-known, high-profile, risky people without background checks. . Sure, I believe you.

This thread is full of no proof, baseless bullshit. No craft accusations, people thinking a craft is the only and best way to make gil, people thinking 500mil in a 2year timeframe is unreasonable, people thinking he's on Remora. I think background checks are great for random, less known people. I think they are stupid bullshit for high-profile players. Also, when I played WoW, I led a top guild worldwide there, it was unbelievable how many false rumors and bullshit was going around about me and our guild. It made me laugh. Really, do you believe everything you see on TV about high profile people there? 'cause it's kinda the same thing. All that bullshit focuses on the negative, ignores the positive, and completely distorts, bends, or ignores the truth.

As for proof, all you need is a Perseverance member (not one that's in Volume with you now, obviously) to come on the thread and tell us where their bank is. If it's still sitting on Gilgamesh, I'll eat my words gladly. Or, if he can show transaction history for the hundreds of millions of gil that they've surely made, that'd be fine too. But I'm not going to wait for that for too long.

How about 1 Pers member from a few days ago coming on here and saying they didn't get a payout? He literally handed out gil/items/etc less than an hour before he transferred. Gave extra gil to some people to trust to give it to people not on. Also, go check that "Leader takes all" thread in advanced, he posted his fucking transaction history. I mean, I know you didn't read it, you're too busy flinging shit.

The difference between this guy and Stanislav is that Excellence has 48 relics. Similarly, Apathy has 24. For these two linkshells, Dioma's accomplishment would hardly be questionable. But Perseverance has had 7. So you can see why we're skeptical that it was legit. As I said, if he can prove that, I'd love to eat my words.

Want to find out how many applied with relics to those 2 shells? I seem to recall Ex's recruitment post saying they only took melee with relics...lol...

Oh, and when Radav quit, he gave me 35 million gil. When the core BC members that didn't suck quit, they gave Carmisse all their gil. Inheriting gil is not unheard of, and is actually how I mainly funded my relic lol.

It's pretty common, apparently it's a crime if you don't go post on BG the day it happened with screenshot evidence though.