Relic Augments

[FailureMidgard]

This is nice to know~ Seems they're less restrictive on the requirements for the new relic trials. I think the last big thing to figure out is if you need to be near the kill for it to count (similar to Abyssea bosses).

I think it's pretty safe to assume you need to be in exp range. Trials follow various pattern sets, and these are 100% identical to NM trials on the Empyrean path (credit while dead, same message, etc), which require you to be range afaik.

[Cursed]

At the very least we should get Atmas for having completed our relics, or a 4th lunar abyssite... I'll settle for a revitalizer or icarus wing every time we enter abyssea... no? a relic only emote?
no?...

can I have a potion at least? no?
.....how about an ether?


edit: 10 seconds extra on stones?

edit: a scroll of warp?

edit: a /servermes that says "All relic holders are uber"

edit: an email that says "sorry you did relics"?

edit: a bullet?

edit: sleeping pills?

[Nermie]

Thanks for the laugh

[Fievel]

The email part made me lol harder than it should have

[Davricle]

Upgraded Aegis to level 80 tonight. Not noticing any difference to stun duration, or any other type of augment to it. It did minimally increase damage however. By Minimal, I mean about 5 points of damage. Hope the upgrade to 85 or 90 is less of a joke, unless I'm missing something.

[Kirschy]

Upgraded Aegis to level 80 tonight. Not noticing any difference to stun duration, or any other type of augment to it. It did minimally increase damage however. By Minimal, I mean about 5 points of damage. Hope the upgrade to 85 or 90 is less of a joke, unless I'm missing something.

Mostly expected. Almost all other relics/mythics were gaining minor increases in their augments.

[gilgam]

friend finished GA
some test:

WAR90/THF23(lol)
STR83
no Gorget MAX DMG=2246
2246=WSD 714

(D155+D42)x2.75=541.75
714/541=1.319

STR83+71
with Gorget=2802 DMG
2802=WSD 860
(155+78)x2.75=640.75
860/640=1.34375
WS damage increase 35%?

not sure but also heared about LV90 Amanomurakumo.
Kaiten got 25% bonus.
and Lv90 Burtgang, Max Atonement dmg is 860.

so.. I guess
Relic:
x3.0 WS=25% bonus
x2.75 WS=35% bonus
Mythic=15% bonus

[Kirschy]

friend finished GA
some test:

WAR90/THF23(lol)
STR83
no Gorget MAX DMG=2246
2246=WSD 714

(D155+D42)x2.75=541.75
714/541=1.319

STR83+71
with Gorget=2802 DMG
2802=WSD 860
(155+78)x2.75=640.75
860/640=1.34375
WS damage increase 35%?

not sure but also heared about LV90 Amanomurakumo.
Kaiten got 25% bonus.
and Lv90 Burtgang, Max Atonement dmg is 860.

so.. I guess
Relic:
x3.0 WS=25% bonus
x2.75 WS=35% bonus
Mythic=15% bonus

It sounds like you forgot to account for the crit bonus WAR gets. (Also if you were using AF3+2 feet, that'd be more crit bonus.)

(133 DMG + 22 fSTR + 41 WSC) * 2.75(fTP) * 3.15(Max Crit pdif) * 1.05 (Crit Bonus) = 1782 max damage. 2246/1782 = ~25% boost.
(133 DMG + 22 fSTR + 78 WSC) * 2.85(fTP) * 3.15(Max Crit pdif) * 1.05 (Crit Bonus) = 2196 max damage. 2802/2196 = ~27% boost.

If this data is correct it seems that Relics got a 25% boost to their relic WS. The Atonement thing is better proof since consistent damage, anyway you can show screenshots/eq?

EDIT: Double checked on my Lv 85 Scythe, and I'm not getting any damage bonus. If this exists, it's for Lv90 only~

[Nightfyre]

Interesting. Any idea if it's all WS or just the relic/mythic WS?

[Kirschy]

Interesting. Any idea if it's all WS or just the relic/mythic WS?

I'm interested too. Realli need someone with a Relic Bow/Gun to do testing on which parameters were changed/added to give the boost in damage. My dynamis LS is running through the cities to get our ghorns/aegis up before doing Beau, so I won't be running tests for a while~

[Darkmagi]

This poster also posted this in november:

now Empyrean>Relic/Mythic

after December update,they will remake Dynamis/Salvage for LV90.
also,Lvcap stop @90 for a while because of remaking contents.

SE said "we know other weapons better than Relic/Mythics,but if you keep doing trials it's gonna beat other weapons in the future"
not sure other weapons means Empyrean or not.
so I think new trial request items from new "Dynamis/Salvages".
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/725...s-list/page447
Was also the first to post about the Scherzo buff. Possibly actually reputable?lol
I'm bad at quoting etc.

[Sehrahin]

Ask that Burtgang to test with spirits or some other ele WS that will deal consistant damage.

[Darkmagi]

Pics of the Atonement damage would also be nice.

[Arthars]

SE is right about the "Relic is the best weapon"

if you guys go into serious consideration, it is actually the new WSs that out do relics

not the emp weapons ._.

god hell even a tobi +2 outdo a kikoku if u ask me

[Kirschy]

it is actually the new WSs that out do relics

not the emp weapons ._.

This ^

[Rikura]

Pardon for asking this not in the Random questions thread, but do these Empyrean WSes outdo Relic/Mythic WSes (the big hitting ones anyway...) by a lot even outside of Abyssea?

[Kirschy]

Pardon for asking this not in the Random questions thread, but do these Empyrean WSes outdo Relic/Mythic WSes (the big hitting ones anyway...) by a lot even outside of Abyssea?

It varies. Fudo destroys Kaiten. Quietus doesn't seem to do much better than Cata. In general all the Empyrean WS have higher mods/ftp than their relic counterparts.

[Malacite]

Yeah but isn't DRG WS basically Wheeling Thrust +1, which means DB is still the best WS? Kinda sad.

I guess SE misses lolDRG.

[Sanosuke9]

Lv90 Death Penalty QD effect IV is a 50% increase.

I tested on water day with obi (so i dont get random shots)

AF+1 Hat
Novio Earring
Hectate's Earring
Mirke
Forban Cape
Desultors
(Decided not to use Af3+2 feet or pendent and forgot my Water staff lol)

Total MAB = 24 (was also /nin)

Was smacking 527dmg each

2(Guns Base + Steel Bullets+ AF Hat)*(1+MAB/100)*Obi*QD effectIV

2(54+70+5)x1.24x1.1x1.5 = 527dmg

If i wasnt lazy and brought all my gear, outside abyssea i would of been doing

885dmg (without rolls and the 10% increase from 2nd shot on feet? also oberon bulets which i keep chucking)

EDIT: With Af3+1 feet on i was hitting 803 then 964 on 2nd. I thought Feet was 10% on 2nd, because that QD would show its a 20% increase on 2nd.

[Kirschy]

Lv90 Death Penalty QD effect IV is a 50% increase.

I tested on water day with obi (so i dont get random shots)

AF+1 Hat
Novio Earring
Hectate's Earring
Mirke
Forban Cape
Desultors
(Decided not to use Af3+2 feet or pendent and forgot my Water staff lol)

Total MAB = 24 (was also /nin)

Was smacking 527dmg each

2(Guns Base + Steel Bullets+ AF Hat)*(1+MAB/100)*Obi*QD effectIV

2(54+70+5)x1.24x1.1x1.5 = 527dmg

If i wasnt lazy and brought all my gear, outside abyssea i would of been doing

885dmg (without rolls and the 10% increase from 2nd shot on feet? also oberon bulets which i keep chucking)

EDIT: With Af3+1 feet on i was hitting 803 then 964 on 2nd. I thought Feet was 10% on 2nd, because that QD would show its a 20% increase on 2nd.

Could you run a few quick Leaden Salute shots on Lv1 mobs outside a starter town? Would need to use the following:

-Be naked aside from gun.
-Use 300 tp
-Post Your AGI along /w Damage (2 WS at 300tp is enough for this!)

If possible running one additional test with the correct gorget would help a lot too! Also thanks for the testing on Quick Draw IV effect!