Conjurer

**Crymn** · 2010-09-27 16:48

I can tell you still get skill points for curing party members. I went out grinding with a friend and i did get said exp. I can't really tell whether it got nerfed, because we were out only about an hour before he had to leave: Exp upon cures did feel to have diminished, but a) it's always been very random, b) only one person is being affected by cure other than myself, and c) one hour leaves us with too small of a sample, so it could have been bad luck.

**Lucavi** · 2010-09-27 18:06

That was a pretty quick murder of the class, honestly. What, it took a week? And the "exploit" had been around since alpha?

**BunkMonk** · 2010-09-27 18:23

Originally Posted by ramp

I'm not gaining any skillups _at all_ when doing 4 leves with a few friends, seems they killed the class already.

edit. only spirit dart/dd nukes seem to generate any points now.

Was the update just today? I've joined a few groups the last couple of days, and I haven't noticed one skillup from curing :/ Maybe I am just horrible unlucky, or perhaps they just weren't that frequent to begin with. No clue :/

**Katlan** · 2010-09-27 18:24

@ Bunk: it's all based on RNG, so it was always likely u wouldn't get that skill up from healing / buffing and instead of that one spirit dart or w/e. But, lets say you had a 10% chance to get a skill up from healing / buffing before, it seems like now thats chance is maybe 3-5% or something

But, i'm at work... so skill gain is now that bad?

**Lucavi** · 2010-09-27 20:20

I just did another behest and got a little, but not much. I'm a traditional healer (comes from being a holy pally) so I'm not really all about nuking a party setting and it annoys me that I'll be penalized for my playstyle.

**Lyramion** · 2010-09-27 23:28

You still get buff exp - but instead of 150ish prepatch it´s more like in the 30s under surplus. Guardians favor had no noticable impact on exp under surplus now.

**Maguspk** · 2010-09-28 02:20

Spammed cure during some leves today, saw one skill up total for 70ish skill points. I ended up just spamming AOE nukes and then healing myself, hoping for the best, feels good doing 4 leves and getting a grand total of like 300 skill points.

**Darkhavans** · 2010-09-28 03:27

Did a considerable amount of grinding with a Conjurer friend earlier and he was getting 500+ exp from single 1-2 minute fights. So they didn't seem to make any changes to healing EXP outside of leves, which is good.

**Maguspk** · 2010-09-28 03:37

Might want to ask your friend what he meant by 500 exp because I highly doubt he was consistently getting that many 'skill points' from a single mob. If he was then please do share this magic spot because I can barely get above 100 skill points a fight if I'm lucky enough to get any at all, 200 is a rare surprise that makes me feel tingly inside.

**MrSamuels** · 2010-09-28 03:42

Regarding the elemental points you can put in, i have like 94 or so in Ice affinity, it does not seem to really add all that much damage, but you can definitely see a difference between the resist rates of when i am casting an ice based nuke to any other element.

**Elcura** · 2010-09-28 03:43

People need to start making the distinction between skill points and experience points. Saying EXP for both terms is extremely misleading.

Sucky thing about elemental affinity is that you can spec Umbral and Astral.

**Maguspk** · 2010-09-28 03:45

Originally Posted by Elcura

People need to start making the distinction between skill points and experience points. Saying EXP for both terms is extremely misleading.

Fucking cosigned.

**MrSamuels** · 2010-09-28 03:45

Regarding the skill points, there is no way anyone can get full 500+ points every fight, the system is just too random and things don't stay alive long enough. After leveling my thaumaturge second though i have occasionally seen it on dods whilst duoing with a marauder, luck from Sacrifice has mainly contributed to this and then Damnation hitting all the time.

I don't know if i only got this much from them because of how surplus works? i am going to put it all down to pure luck though. This was done as a rank 9 thaum too, which probably increased the rate as my physical level is 25.

The problem on my conjurer i am having at the moment is, i hardly see any skill ups unless we go against yellow type mobs, and then i have to spam cure and because the threat system is so fucked up i am mainly healing myself due to being in a duo only. Nukes occasionally give nice skill up, but once i hit suplus i am lucky to see anything over 200 a fight, and can quite often get nothing for nuking the shit out of fat dodos and other higher end mobs. Also seems you only get points for buffing in combat which is pretty fucking retarded considering the amount of buffs i have to do the fight will be over by the time all buffs are up and the chances are i will get fuck all for doing said buffs but i can understand why this is in place.

**Meko** · 2010-09-28 07:16

I played my conjurer last night with a couple buddies doing some rank 1 leves in Gridania. One was a pug and the other an archer. We all started at rank 1 and by the time we did the archers leves and my leves, they were both 6 and I was 5. I did my best to spam spirit dart and cures but it didn't seem to matter. They both hit rank 2 before I had over 200 conj. skill points. /sadpanda

**Dantrag** · 2010-09-28 08:54

Competing against a Arch and Pug in level 1 leves even on 5 stars is going to leave you with very little skill ups. No way around it. I've mostly soloed to 15 and will probably continue to do so.

**Maguspk** · 2010-09-28 13:35

I am so tempted to switch to a melee class...soloing is abyssmal, too bad I would have to like transfer my points slowly lol..

**Darkhavans** · 2010-09-28 14:15

Originally Posted by Maguspk

Might want to ask your friend what he meant by 500 exp because I highly doubt he was consistently getting that many 'skill points' from a single mob. If he was then please do share this magic spot because I can barely get above 100 skill points a fight if I'm lucky enough to get any at all, 200 is a rare surprise that makes me feel tingly inside.

He was definitely referring to skill points. There were some fights where he's only get around 100, but I'd say about 75% of the time he'd get about 300, with some fights going up to 500 skill. We were just grinding Aldgoats outside of Camp Bloodshore. He definitely wasn't getting 500 every fight, sorry for being misleading there, but he was leveling faster than me, he managed to go from 14 to 16 in our couple-hour grinding session.

**Nevex** · 2010-09-29 03:49

Sorry if this has already been answered but does DEX do anything for Phantom/Spirit Dart accuracy?
It might be just me but it seems that the more I level the more I miss and I haven't touched DEX yet.

**Jak** · 2010-09-29 09:30

I don't miss any more or any less at 18 than I did at 8 and I've never touched Dex. Straight through with Vit/Int/Mnd/Pie across the board.

**MrSamuels** · 2010-09-29 09:40

Originally Posted by Maguspk

I am so tempted to switch to a melee class...soloing is abyssmal, too bad I would have to like transfer my points slowly lol..

Out of interest what do you find so abysmal about soloing? the only thing i find annoying is cure not giving skill ups at all when used on yourself, but it is kinda understandable because of the system.

I personally dropped cure for sacrifice for when i am against anything blue - yellow, the cast speed and the heal over time allow for more dart spam. Slow also helps, however the duration does suck big time for now.

Something i don't really hear a lot of Conjurers go on about is Spiritbind, which kinda confuses me because i think it is awesome when soloing, 50% mp cost really helps when you wanna go nuke crazy and its not like we need to move around when in combat so the downside is almost nothing.

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