Orobon NM, thundersday
Thunder 4 proc, then Water Thren proc (it is thunder based) on the next one
We got a red !! Last night buy no atma. It was only proc'd once also. Has anyone else experianced this?
Sorry if this has been answered or is common knowledge, but I haven't seen it directly in the few pages of this thread I've read.
If you proc a blue and red !! (or any combination, really) do you get the increased chance to drop an atma and rare drops?
(a few posts above)
So I guess you get + drop rate and Atma. I had always assumed this was the case, but it's nice to see one data point of it happening! Now! Find something that can survive one iteration of every WS in the game while you go for both Blue and Red.
whiro: Blue!! Dragon Kick, iceday(i think)
Whoops, can't believe I missed that. I suppose because no one was quoting/talking about it, but no excuses. Sorry~
tried to trigger Ironclad Pulverizer's Red "!!" yesterday but no dice -_- we had nin, cor, drk, sam, war, thf use every single elemental ws possible. Shit can be retarded sometimes. Is there any post with all the "confirmed" wses that can trigger the red "!!"?
Pretty sure I've gotten red !! with Tachi: Goten as well.
Edit: Has there been a confirmed case of Blade: To, Teki, or Chi causing red? Those WS are weird in that they say they are elemental in their description but they do not produce amber lights like the rest. I was under the impression that they didn't work, much like Flaming Arrow and Hot Shot don't seem to work(produce ruby light as well).
As poster above said though, Blade: Ei works oddly/sadly enough.
To add on, melee swings from ironclad most likely count as weaponskills for the purpose of this. I haven't specifically tried on an ironclad, but fanatics makes 'weird' melee swings load as 'Mob uses Ability. No effect on Playername'.. the fish in vunkerl is a good example of this. This would make proccing red !! significantly harder on them, and people have noted that problem.
Related and random, but in my experience Ironclad _____ swings don't drop Mazurka. Jog on, kiting mages, jog on!
Related: Most magic WSs can be used at a much longer range than typical WSs in my experience. Mages kite, melee TP on surrounding mobs and magic WS the kited mob?
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, and sort of to lazy to go through the thread. If you let a mob deaggro, it will change it's weakness, it will also remove your trigger.
1st fight:
Was soloing Whiro, every 2-3 minutes he would deaggro. Initially on pull, I chainspelled and went through the magic spell rotation for a RDM to see if I could get the trigger. None of my spells proc'd a weakness.
A few minutes later he deaggro'd I reclaimed a split second after he went yellow, the next thunder 3 I did proc'd the magic weakness. I ended up losing claim again. All of a sudden Blizzard 3 proc'd a magic weakness.
Ended up losing claim again, got 2 SAM seals on kill. (0,1,2 seals being NQ results)
2nd fight:
Duo this time. I had a mule standing by, I cycled through my spells, no procs. I let it deaggro. Cycled through my spells again, proc'd Fire III, had the mule get minimal hate on the NM, so I could keep claim indefinitely.
3 BLU and a WHM seal dropped. (2,3,4 seals being HQ results)
Basically, anything you can deaggro or outdistance (use conflux for deaggro) you should have an infinite amount of chances to proc your magic spells, even as a solo RDM. But it's important to not let it deaggro again, or you lose your weakness trigger rewards.
Did 4 Berstuk's on Thundersday, we found weakness on two of them...both were thunder3. Go figure?
boss of vunk Senga the ruzsor procced red !! from cyclone. Ended up getting Atma of the tusked terror. Wiki lies
Granite Borer
Flash on Darksday
Aspir on Darksday AND Dancing Edge procced blue, same one (didnt drop earring tho)
Another Flash on Darksday
Light Threnody on Darksday
Grellow from Stone 3 on Funereal Apkallu popped on Earthday.