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  1. #1721

    Relatively sure Metsu is a 60% DEX mod with no natural STR mod barring fSTR. If I'm not wrong, then no to the STR ring or fracas in Generic's post, AFAIK. As a Ninja on anything hard, barring getting attack buffs, you aren't capped on attack - not even close. Making that Centaurus the best earring last I heard - and if not, then it would likely be a DEX earring second, not STR. The Kabuto is right and the Demonry may be best, either it or Bomb Core. Can't be sure if Cuculcan's would be better than Windbuffet. I know I've been considering using it on Catastrophe, but that 6 to the mod and the attack would be way more consistent.

  2. #1722
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    At work, so I can't post pictures. But I need help with Monk gear. I don't have a ton of time to play, so I think I've done alright so far, I also just came back from being gone for 3+ years. But I'm hitting the point where I need guidance on gear. This is what I have right now as TP gear.

    Weapon: Furor Cesti
    Head: Tantra Crown +1
    Neck: Calcitrant Stole
    Body: Juogi
    Hands: Tantra Gloves +1
    Waist: Brown Belt(I know I know)
    Legs: Tantra Hose +2
    Feet: Tantra Gaiters +1
    Earring: Brutal Earring
    Earring: Tantra Earring
    Ring: Rajas Ring
    Ring: Adler Ring
    Back: Atheling Mantle

    Aside from the obvious "Get Vere and +2 Nub!" What else should I be focusing on?

  3. #1723
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    Rancor Collar is pretty win. Adler Ring is really bad, though. Until you snag an Epona's, you can still use something like Tyrant's or Keen. You didn't mention your ammo piece either but Thew bomblet or Potestas are both solid choices.

    I'm pretty sure AF3+2 body is going to beat out Juogi as well, especially during Impetus up (you didn't specify so I'm going to assume this is just a catch-all Tp set). I'm not really sure of any situation I'd use Juogi aside from Attack/fStr capped+Impetus down which isn't too common, especially outside Abyssea.

    When/If you nab a black belt you can swap out your Af3 hands for AF2+2 (Melee Gloves +2) with 4/5 AF3+2 still capping haste.

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    Oh sorry the Tantra Tathlum. And thanks, that's pretty much what I was looking for. The Juogi I have because I haven't been able to get people together to help me with the Cyclas +1.

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    Someone have a good Blade: Shun set? Nothing to hard of gear to get....

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    Weapon/Weapon/_/Bomb Core
    Aias/Gorget/Brutal/Centaurus
    Iga +2/Iga+2/Aug Jupiter/Rajas
    Atheling/Ele. Belt/Byakko/Iga +2

    Probably have most of that lying around, I'd assume.

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    Great thanks. Appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brill Weave View Post
    At work, so I can't post pictures. But I need help with Monk gear. I don't have a ton of time to play, so I think I've done alright so far, I also just came back from being gone for 3+ years. But I'm hitting the point where I need guidance on gear. This is what I have right now as TP gear.

    Weapon: Furor Cesti
    Head: Tantra Crown +1
    Neck: Calcitrant Stole
    Body: Juogi
    Hands: Tantra Gloves +1
    Waist: Brown Belt(I know I know)
    Legs: Tantra Hose +2
    Feet: Tantra Gaiters +1
    Earring: Brutal Earring
    Earring: Tantra Earring
    Ring: Rajas Ring
    Ring: Adler Ring
    Back: Atheling Mantle

    Aside from the obvious "Get Vere and +2 Nub!" What else should I be focusing on?
    Ganesha's mask and 4/5 Tantra+2 beats Melee gloves+2 and 4/5 Tantra+2, I think. Aesir ear pendant instead of Tantra earring (possibly Regain Moonshade - I went with TPB Moonshade, though). Potato bomblet if you can find one. After a couple days of farming without success I decided to hold off until I get my hands on some Adderall. D:

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    Mask only accounts for base attack doesn't it, so isn't it worse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan View Post
    Mask only accounts for base attack doesn't it, so isn't it worse?
    It does not.

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    Alright, now I know what I should be going for. Thanks for the help.

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    Updated Drg TP set yay! Swapped out Bestia/Rancorous/Hyoui/Bullwhip for Rheic/Atheling/Rancor/Phasmida.


    Think I've sussed out ideal OAT drg set too. I was thinking:
    OAT, Rose, Hagneia
    Phorcys, Rancor, Dragonkin, Brutal
    AF3+2, AF3+2, Blitz, Rajas
    Atheling, Phasmida, Phorcys, Af3+2

    25% Haste, 49STP, 31STP required for 1hit WS, 24STP needed for 2hits+ - Rose/Rajas/Brutal. Swap in Ogier's Hands for 1hit proc WSs. Means you don't have to use AF3+2 body during WS for STP and can use the sexy Rheic/Phorcys body.

    Edit: Forgot I had Ganesha's Mala. I'm guessing I should be using that + Rancorous Mantle over Atheling/Rancor?

  13. #1733

    Rancor mantle for back, use a different neckpiece. No point useing DA gear while using OAT

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    My napkin shows a ~3.7% hit/swing increase using Genasha's. Otherwise you might use a Nefarious Collar.

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    So Rancourous/Mala until I can grab a Nefarious then Rancorous/Nef?

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    Should have specified: 2.42%increase over atheling mantle + brutal earring, 3.7%increase over just brutal earring.

    I think the nefarious collar would increase your max melee damag by 1%-4.62% for high-low pdif.

  17. #1737
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    Ok so even if Nef is giving the max boost of 4.62, that's just on TP damage, not WS frequency, which is probably gong to be about 40% of total damage (being generous)? Which would be at max 2.8ish increase. Sounds like Mala is always better then. (Unless the 1-4.62 you stated was for total DoT and not just TP phase damage, but even if it is, I think I'd rather take a static +3.7 over a varying 1-4.62 boost, consistency etc). Cheers for the info there guys.

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    I messed up that calculation. I forgot to tack on the random bit of pDIF and the level correction.

    This only applies to TP damage.

    If you have a lot more STR and attack than the monster has VIT and DEF, nefarious collar will increase melee damage by 5.16%. If you have such low STR that your fSTR is negative, and if your attack compared to the monsters VIT/DEF, taking into account level correction, is so low that your pDIF->0 nefarious collar will increase melee damage by either 7.69% or ~16 % depending on whether melee damage is rounded up above .5 or just floored... I'm not sure which is true.

    Those are the very extreme upper and lower values.

    That's what I got, anyway.

    It's probably important to note that I've assumed you have capped dDEX and full critical hit rate merits. In the opposite extreme, where your DEX is absolute garbage and dDEX is at it's minimum value, nefarious collar adds at most 30% and at least .24% (low,high pDIF values).

    Looking back, the highest values for percentage increase are the case where pDIF=0. This is the case where you wouldn't actually deal damage unless the hit was a critical. I'm not sure this is the best way to analyze this.

    Also, these values are very dependent on where the rounding occurs in the formulas, which is something I'm not very sure about. I think pDIF rounds after three decimal points and damage either floors or rounds up at the very last step.

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    Ok, so I can assume that Nef collar will have to give an increase of at least around 9-10% during TP phase damage to beat Mala, which based on what you wrote sounds unlikely. So stickign with Mala seems like the sensible option.

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    Ok so recently came back to the game on a new account, leveling whm (heard that's pretty easy to level/gear in abysea).

    I'm looking for advice on gear that's pretty easy to get? :X lol.

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