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  1. #1
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    Victory March now caps~ (Sad Face Here)

    Went through and tested it to hell. Victory March now caps at 600 total skill. Very easy to see with decent gear and Lv 85 skills.

    Victory March caps at 600 total skill for 96/1024 Haste. (+2 Instrument adds +32/1024 making this total 128/1024 Haste. 12.5% Haste.)

    What does this mean for the future of marches?
    (Champion's March is just some fictional new march tier I'm using for the purposes of this post.)

    Advancing March caps at 64/1024 (96/1024 /w +2 Instrument) [9.375%]
    Victory March caps at 96/1024 (128/1024 /w +2 Instrument) [12.5%]
    Champion's March will probably cap at 128/1024 (160/1024 /w +2 Instrument) [15.625%]

    Right now the non-SV cap for marches:
    Victory + Advancing = (128 + 96 = 224/1024 = 21.875% Haste)
    Haste Spell + Victory + Advancing = (224 + 150 = ~35.5% Haste)

    SV'd Victory + Advancing is exactly 43.75%, the Magic Haste Cap. (No need for Haste Spell.)

    Currently +2 is the highest march instrument available. Assuming SE will release a +3 instrument in the future and hopefully Gjallar trials, the following will work:

    Advancing March: 64 + 48 = 112/1024 = 10.94% Haste
    Victory March: 96 + 48 = 144/1024 = 14.06% Haste
    Champion's March: 128 + 48 = 17.19% Haste

    Just to add: Lv 85 BRD has 560 total natural skill. You only need 40 skill from either merits or eq to cap. Pretti much any BRD can cap now, and next update every BRD will be capped.

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    Sad face ;( but thank you Krischy

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    thanks for the information.. now I can remove some of my singing/wind skill for Marches... by next update shouldn't even need any singing or wind magic + gear then to hit minuet madrigal and march cap.. this makes me sad because of all the gear I have lol ;;

    Thanks for the information, also I didn't know about Champion's March until now.

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    Thank you for your findings. I now have to do nothing for my 85 brd mule.

    In b4 BRD/ sub /cor /whm /rdm /whatever owns everything as support. [I already use it full time on 24-25% haste NIN.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    also I didn't know about Champion's March until now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschy View Post
    (Champion's March is just some fictional new march tier I'm using for the purposes of this post.)
    lesigh.

    Thanks for doing this though, Kirschy.

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    I suppose this is an appropriate place to put this: "lolG-horn"

    G-horn is now an extra 2 MP/tick over the ballad harp (that's an extra 2MP/tick that no one could give a shit about in Abyssea) and not even the best instrument for some of the songs (like Minuet). It needs a buff badly.

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    But, but, ghorn has the advantage of not being a harp, which has the advantage of not needing to memorize the distance of 2 different ballads (which have different ranges) and remembering to stay that far away from melees, instead of just always being 10'. Definitely worth 150m.

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    It also has 20MAcc! Which would be relevant, if there wasn't an Elegy +3 instrument now. No Abyssea NMs are susceptible to sleep, and nothing else I can think of has enough magic evasion to require another 20MAcc on Lullaby. On that note, the major G-horn advantage is gone. Have fun buying new instruments, G-horn owners. Plenty of +3s this update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    Thanks for the information, also I didn't know about Champion's March until now.
    I don't know... but it just seems funny that you would say this... and then you have a quote about someone else loving cock.

    Maybe its just me.

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    As much as I would hate to have even more magian trials to waste time on, I'm about ready to beg for trials for my horn now... As if having my Salvage gear junked already wasn't bad enough... >.>

    At least now I don't have to bust my butt for those last few pieces of skill+ gear I was trying for... though I'll probably keep working for them anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    But, but, ghorn has the advantage of not being a harp, which has the advantage of not needing to memorize the distance of 2 different ballads (which have different ranges) and remembering to stay that far away from melees, instead of just always being 10'. Definitely worth 150m.

    Of course it is..... /sigh i'm going to go cut myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaachaQ View Post
    As much as I would hate to have even more magian trials to waste time on, I'm about ready to beg for trials for my horn now... As if having my Salvage gear junked already wasn't bad enough... >.>

    At least now I don't have to bust my butt for those last few pieces of skill+ gear I was trying for... though I'll probably keep working for them anyway...
    Did you buy your new instruments yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Did you buy your new instruments yet?
    No >.> Been trying to farm them, but very halfheartedly... I didn't want to become a marching band again carrying around so many instruments like I used to...

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    One horn to rule them all, one horn to find them. One horn to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them!


    The horn has been removed from power! <_<;

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    Thanks Kirshy<3

    It does suck SE jilted us on trials but a lot of gear got jilted. Isnt amano pretty much the same?
    Masamune etc etc etc

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    I think it's pretty obvious to guess that SE will add trials for horn soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    I think it's pretty obvious to guess that SE will add trials for horn soon.
    Yeah, that's overwhelmingly obvious. Waaaait... no it isn't.

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    at least i don't have to bother with nuhn/dea for my mule for a few more months

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Yeah, that's overwhelmingly obvious. Waaaait... no it isn't.
    It is, why would they create trials for the other weapons to get 85 and leave two? They most likely haven't thought of the trials or buffs they will give to it yet.

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    This thread made me sad THANKS A LOT KIRSCHY

    No but really, thanks for doing the testing, sucks though.

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