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  1. #12601
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    Get the hands for sure if you are learning blue magic.

  2. #12602
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    It's naked atm; 362 atm will take it to 280 to be safe, then drop 8 merits in it when I get back, pick up a mavi tathulum and get to it. I've read the AF gear has some JP midnight waits and I want to grind these out tonight, so I'll just worry about picking them up after learning some spells.

    Gracias
    Do note higher blue magic skills is SUPPOSED to help you learn faster (I think it does, from experience). Therefore, I would spend a night just spamming pollen when you sleep and cap your skill, then proceed to learning.

  3. #12603
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karizo View Post
    Do note higher blue magic skills is SUPPOSED to help you learn faster (I think it does, from experience). Therefore, I would spend a night just spamming pollen when you sleep and cap your skill, then proceed to learning.
    I was actually looking for something to help me with that last night but nothing worked; the thingie majigger I tried just had me rest instead of casting magix. I have 1100 minutes in abyssea atm after the pt I just exited, so spamming phys magic on hammering rams since I can do it here w/ refresh atma. Not sure how far the mob will take me though in terms of skill level

    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Get the hands for sure if you are learning blue magic.
    aye, thx

  4. #12604

    Quote Originally Posted by Karizo View Post
    Do note higher blue magic skills is SUPPOSED to help you learn faster (I think it does, from experience). Therefore, I would spend a night just spamming pollen when you sleep and cap your skill, then proceed to learning.
    I can substatiate this with.... shitty experience lol

    My blue magic learning set at 99 was basically any piece with +skill in it. (RF2 head, RF1 body, RF1 hands cause more skill =/= that effect, AF3+2 pants, and RF1 shoes. Skill is capped AND have 8/8 merits in it too.)
    So far have only needed 1 casting/kill of the new spells from the last update (and all 99 spells for that matter) to learn them.... but then that's not REAL data on the basis of less or more skill... cause as we all know... sometime this game just doesn't want you to learn X spell even if you see it 5000000000 times.

    On a different topic, I use Quadratic Continuum as my main phys blue magic damage spell... cause Amorphic spikes had slightly less damage than QC and had more possible negative buffs (amorph vs empty)... and QC+AW was DW without thinking about it.
    But now that that combo is bust from Erratic Flutter... I'm thinking I should give AS another chance. (also CDC>>>>>>Requiscat, so "better" SC there.)
    I dicked around with Thrashing Assault when it came out... but atm just don't have enough points to use it as anything more than "cheap" DA... not to mention it's SC properties are shit. (I want Light or Darkness EVERY chain affinity use!)
    Not to mention that I was unimpressed with the damage it gave... (lv99 spell... 5hit.... less damage than a lv84 4hit spell?? wha?)
    So I was just curious what other ppl like to use for their CA SC phys spell?

  5. #12605
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    Not sure what you're talking about I haven't seen thrashing assault get out damaged by quadratic continuum or amorphic spikes yet. Could just be my sets for those spells are awful but Thrashing Assault tends to do upwards of 500-1k damage over the other 2 on both easy crap and anything in adoulin that I've used blu on. I still set amorphic spikes for darkness but I'll sometimes use thrashing assault with CA for fusion depending on what I'm fighting.

  6. #12606
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    What skillchain elements is Thrash?

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    Fusion/Reverberation

  8. #12608
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    On a different topic, I use Quadratic Continuum as my main phys blue magic damage spell... cause Amorphic spikes had slightly less damage than QC and had more possible negative buffs (amorph vs empty)... and QC+AW was DW without thinking about it.
    But now that that combo is bust from Erratic Flutter...
    huh? erratic flutter is fast cast

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    They mean dropping Animating Wail to make room for Erratic Flutter I'm pretty sure.

  10. #12610

    Yes, Hitou, that is precisely what I mean.
    Hence why I was curious about changing out QC since it no longer gives me DW without worrying about anything.

    And your TA numbers are funny... Because that's the exact opposite of what I was getting for it. LoL
    For me, TA was getting ~5~700 less than QC on various Adoulin mobs.
    The same with AS, but far less of a gap. (Like if QC was 4500, AS was 4100 and TA was 3800.)
    I'll probably switch to AS but just was curious about what spell other people preferred and used.

    EDIT: After thinking about it... I could just bite the bullet and Chain Affinity Savage Blade>>>Thrashing Assault=>Light... buut.... CDC >_>

  11. #12611

    Is it impossible to be invited to delve as BLU or is my LS just full of assholes?

  12. #12612
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaeQueenCory View Post
    And your TA numbers are funny... Because that's the exact opposite of what I was getting for it. LoL
    For me, TA was getting ~5~700 less than QC on various Adoulin mobs.
    Maybe gearing issues? Or not taking into account dmg types?

    They have the same ftps per hit but TA has an extra hit... same amount of str mod and same amount for their other stat but TA is slightly easier to build for I think since it's dex vs the vit of QC.... by the stats of the spell TA should be decently better

  13. #12613
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotGreyheim View Post
    Is it impossible to be invited to delve as BLU or is my LS just full of assholes?
    They are, I destroy Delve on my BLU. Delve 1 zones BLU has really great utility with terror, multiple debuffs, stuns etc. Delve 2 you lose a little of that but you can still hold your own.

  14. #12614

    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    They are, I destroy Delve on my BLU. Delve 1 zones BLU has really great utility with terror, multiple debuffs, stuns etc. Delve 2 you lose a little of that but you can still hold your own.
    Glad to hear, I'll start looking for a better shell for delve :D

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    So anyone who has done it care to comment more on the soloing outer raz? Is it just subduction all the things? Do you fight/avoid particular mobs or NMs?

  16. #12616
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotGreyheim View Post
    Is it impossible to be invited to delve as BLU or is my LS just full of assholes?
    Unless you have absolutely incredible gear and a really cool group of people, you're not going to get invited to any respectable delve run as blu.

  17. #12617
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    They are, I destroy Delve on my BLU. Delve 1 zones BLU has really great utility with terror, multiple debuffs, stuns etc. Delve 2 you lose a little of that but you can still hold your own.
    What debuff is worth it other than frightful roar in case slow/para/silence is already covered by support?

  18. #12618
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    Gravity is nice for getting rid of any adds since you can outrun them and they depop. Roar/paralyze are the main ones though on the 1~5 NM.

  19. #12619
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    Can blu reliably stun the MBs on delve1, and what other debuffs will stick from blu spells?

  20. #12620
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    Anyone attempt to make a Savage Blade set and SC it with Thrashing Assault? I wonder how Savage Blade compares to CDC with the right set and perhaps slightly higher TP stored up, since its damage is TP based.

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