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    Kiss your free checking account goodbye.

    From the LA Times:
    Free checking, RIP. It was nice while it lasted.

    Reversing a trend that began in the mid-1990s, big banks are imposing new fees on their least-profitable customers — those who want just a bare-bones checking account.

    Those who can't maintain fat balances, or who don't use other services that would make them more lucrative to a bank, probably will need to cough up about $100 a year if they want to stay put.

    Blame the financial crisis. As part of the reforms adopted after the banking system's near-meltdown in 2008, the federal government has made it more difficult for banks to impose credit-card late fees, debit-card overdraft penalties and other charges.

    Saying the new rules will cost them billions of dollars a year, the big banks plan to bring back maintenance fees on basic checking accounts.

    The country's four giant banks — Bank of America, Wells Fargo, JPMorgan Chase and Citibank — are already phasing in the charges, and large regional banks are expected to follow suit.

    The upshot: If you're not prepared to stockpile cash in a checking account, be prepared to pay a monthly fee or to take your money to a smaller bank.

    "Wealthy consumers will be able to avoid these charges by maintaining high balances," said Jeremy T. Rosenblum, a Philadelphia lawyer and consumer finance specialist. "But for the poor and moderate-income people whose balances are lower, it's going to be much harder to avoid these fees."

    Consumer advocates are largely on board, contending that modest checking fees are preferable to onerous and deceptive overdraft charges.

    "A reasonable, upfront monthly fee is much better than abusive back-end overdraft fees or other junk fees that target those who can least afford them," said Lauren Saunders of the National Consumer Law Center.

    Some customers are looking for cheaper alternatives.

    Valerie Milan of Laguna Beach said Chase plans to start charging her $10 a month next week if she doesn't keep at least $1,500 in her checking account or make a deposit of $500 or more each month.

    "I don't make enough to have that much in the bank all the time," Milan, 34, said as she left a Chase branch in Dana Point.

    Milan will probably be able to get a better deal from smaller banks still offering free checking — but she'll have to give up access to a vast ATM network and the variety of services offered by bigger competitors.

    Industry experts trace the widespread availability of free checking to 1994, when Washington Mutual, a fast-growing Seattle savings and loan angling for middle- and lower-income customers, introduced unconditionally free checking.

    It wasn't until 2003, in part because the industry enjoyed a favorable configuration of interest rates, that big banks fully followed WaMu's example and embraced no-cost checking. Typically the only condition was a regular direct deposit.

    Of course, free checking was never quite free — at least for the banks. Large institutions typically spend $300 to $350 a year to provide a checking account, including paying for branches, automated-teller machines, online account access and customer service by phone, according to industry consultant Michael Moebs of Lake Bluff, Ill.

    Avoiding monthly charges now will take some work.

    Consumers who "just sit on the sidelines and do nothing — and there are people who will do that — they're going to get stung badly by fees," Moebs said.

    Bank of America, for example, plans to phase in checking fees over two years, first for new customers and then for the 57 million households it already does business with. It's testing reactions in three states to fees of $9 to $25 a month for consumers without big-enough balances or deposits.

    BofA says customers can still steer clear of monthly fees by doing all their banking online or at ATMs. But the penalty for straying is stiff: Conduct just one routine transaction with a human teller and you'll get dinged $9 that month.

    At Citibank, depositors who make fewer than five debit-card transactions a month already pay $8 a month for checking. Wells Fargo is charging $5 a month for new checking accounts, and its chief executive warned last month of more "costs that will be passed along to customers."

    Chase is imposing fees next week on customers whose deposits and balances aren't big enough — $10 a month on the West Coast, WaMu's former stronghold, and $12 elsewhere. Chase spokesman Gary Kishner compared the cost to a couple of trips to Starbucks. He also said 93% of Social Security recipients could avoid the charge by having their monthly benefit electronically deposited.

    Consumer advocates advise studying the fine print on your bank statement and other materials, seeing whether free checking bundled with other services suits your needs and calling your bank to object if you see a new charge you dislike.
    http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb...cking-20110204

    This has been in the works for a while apparently. (That's article is old) I only found out when I got a letter from my bank yesterday. Here's another more recent one that kinda better explains the reason why.

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...ard-fees_n.htm

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    TCF already changed over months ago, but I noticed they went 3 months without charging me for it despite me being under the limit all three, the few before that they had been dinging me for it.

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    so many replies:

    - poor people, lol
    - team member checking rocks

    ok so I guess I only had two replies.

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    So basically the lesson here is to not do business with banks unless you're rich. Rich, rich, rich.

    Anyone seeing a pattern here?

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    I was able to get out of this on my BoA account a while back by closing it, and reopening it online, but I'm not sure how long it will last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    So basically the lesson here is to not do business with banks unless you're rich. Rich, rich, rich.

    Anyone seeing a pattern here?
    $500 a month in deposits ain't exactly rich

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    Oh Federal Credit Unions, how I love thee.

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    Exactly, Credit Unions fucking rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri-G View Post
    $500 a month in deposits ain't exactly rich
    My local credit unions did the change in December. It's $5 a month now if you don't keep $500 per account. When all my bills come out at the start of the month, my balance usually drops below that. Right now, I'm overdue on several because of unemployment, and catching up on them is going to keep me under $500 for probably the rest of the year.

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    $1500 on your account isn't exactly "rich". I have more than that just so I always have money for emergencies.

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    credit unions aren't exactly safe either, beware conversion transitions...

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    Hurray for small independent banks!

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    This calls for a song;


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    mother uckers at the bank tryin to bite me!

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    Valerie Milan of Laguna Beach said Chase plans to start charging her $10 a month next week if she doesn't keep at least $1,500 in her checking account or make a deposit of $500 or more each month.
    Not sure what the problem is? If that is a typical requirement, no one will be paying any fees except kids who can just keep their money in their mattress if they don't want to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey View Post
    Not sure what the problem is? If that is a typical requirement, no one will be paying any fees except kids who can just keep their money in their mattress if they don't want to pay.
    College students...

    Many will make one large deposit each semester, sometimes put small chunks in there parents give them, and they like the convenience. They should keep some free student account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey View Post
    Not sure what the problem is? If that is a typical requirement, no one will be paying any fees except kids who can just keep their money in their mattress if they don't want to pay.
    Don't be so naive. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck, meaning, consistent balance of less then 100 bucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    Don't be so naive. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck, meaning, consistent balance of less then 100 bucks.
    Which would suck for people getting paid less than $500 a month.

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    TCF already changed over months ago, but I noticed they went 3 months without charging me for it despite me being under the limit all three, the few before that they had been dinging me for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    College students...

    Many will make one large deposit each semester, sometimes put small chunks in there parents give them, and they like the convenience. They should keep some free student account.
    the article doesn't say anything about student accounts, are they being taken away too? I've never had one, but surely they're attractive enough for the big banks to keep around.

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